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In 2006 and 2007 I became very concerned about the US and world economy, and published several strong warnings before the crisis hit in 2008…

I also came to feel that there would be a “double dip”
in this crisis. Interestingly, major economies such
as the Eurozone, Japan, the UK and even China did experience
this “second wave” down. But the USA managed to keep it’s
head above water by spending trillions on QE programs, etc.

Commodity economies such as Australia, New Zealand and
Canada also did OK – mainly by selling into the Chinese housing
bubble. But that is all coming to an end now.

I have an uneasy feeling about the next couple of years – that
some of the “artificial” supports that have been used to prop
things up around the world may start to unravel. And when it
begins, things can get serious rather quickly.

My main recommendation is very simple. GET OUT OF DEBT.
And STAY out of debt. Don’t allow yourself to be over-exposed
in such a time.

I would be very interested to hear if there are others who have
been sensing a similar thing about these next couple of years.

PLEASE COMMENT on this topic below, my friends-

Posted in Articles by Andrew on March 19th, 2015 at 11:23 am.


156 Replies

  1. Ken Arrand Mar 19th 2015

    I agree totally and would also add “learn to grow your own food for the difficult times just around the corner”

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  3. Steven tutu Mar 19th 2015

    I have heard the same warnings, this storm will transcend the financial it will be in all scopes of lfe including climatic

  4. Around the time when they were announcing a possible recession coming to the US, The Lord told me that things would be better for those who trusted in Him. His Word is constant and it will be the same always. Psalm 23 says the Lord is My Shepherd, I shall never be in want.

    We are to FOLLOW The Lord – He is Our Shepherd and goes before us, we are to be led not come up with ideas not checked out with the Lord first.

    Re. debt and getting out of debt, we should do the same thing. We have no business feeling guilty for taking out the debt even if it was unnecessary, or being afraid.

    The guilt has been paid for by the Blood of Jesus. Repent and ask the Lord to forgive you and if you are truly saved your desire would be to repent and want to follow and obey the Lord. The Lord tells us to be led by His Spirit as His Sons – Romans 8:14.

    I had $11,000 in debt canceled because of the mistake the credit card representative made a mistake by telling me to close my account promising that I would have fewer charges, when my interest was high. They later refused to reduce the interest because the account was closed. I had to take some steps like write a letter and send it to them by certified mail etc.

    The VERY important thing is that if I did not have peace, or felt guilty or burdened, I would never have heard the steps to deal with the debt.

    The Lord told me something so awesome, when I was thinking of what should be done to get a garnishment order canceled for my 17 year old nephew’s debt. The Lord told me to ask Him for the solution. He told me that His people focus on the problem and miss hearing the solution. He said He had SOLVED EVERY PROBLEM. The answer to today’s problem, He said was yesterday.

    In the case of my nephew’s situation I asked, “Lord what is the solution?” and He told me, what would seem the most “irrational” thing in human terms. He told me to put the garnishment paper on the floor and dance on it. I did.

    The following day when the post came in – there was a letter from the Court Clerk saying the garnishment order had been canceled. To this day I do not know why they canceled it especially because they had taken “over the top” steps to get to my nephew, like file in two courts etc.

    Seek Father ONLY. He is our Teacher – Matthew 23:8-10. He is HIS WORD, and will never fail. If you need something, He will create it, if it is not available. If there isn’t a human being to bless you, He can use a raven….

  5. Malcolm Bagwell Mar 19th 2015

    You are spot on, Andrew. I think God is speaking to all those who are willing to listen. The bubble could burst in the USA this September, and this will cause a ripple effect around the globe.
    I do believe however, that God will not forsake the righteous. We could see miraculous provision from the hand of God, like the Israelites received manna in the wilderness. We need to be totally reliant on God in these perilous times.

  6. Charles Marlow Mar 19th 2015

    This has been a concern: Where is the church and the “prophets”? Do you really feel “uneasy”? We are on the edge of the falls… globally there is amped up unrest and duduman’s visions are now doable… and u are uneasy? My complaint/question has been and is, where are the big mouths of the church who always have so much to say about general and non critical issues, what God is saying about it all, etc etc…. and to be so ignorant and silent about what is transpiring TODAY, esp financially as to ask, does anyone else think maybe, maybe, all is not well? I DO NOT HEAR ANY VOICES OUT OF “THE CHURCH” one of two reasons: 1)all is well and God is not saying anything nor warning anyone about anything since “all is well” and as it has been forever,, so just continue as you have, OR 2)and I believe this is the truth: THE CHURCH LEADERS AND MOUTHPIECES HAVE NO CLUE AND DON’T HEAR FROM GOD ANY MORE THAN JOE AND SUZY PEWSITTER … we been looking to the wrong folks for our “input” THEY HAVE NO MORE IDEA OF WHAT’S COMING THAN ANYONE ELSE WHO IS FIXED ON A MIRROR of who they are and what they have been taught and what they believe they know. Its an indictment. The things coming upon the world, the imminent collapse of the world’s system and false security and NOTHING? from the Church? I pondered this for several years. Asked God why he doesnt warn people of impending disasters and tsunamis and things, .. guess what He said?

  7. yes
    We have declared the year as that of debt cancellation
    You are on track.
    We pray that the U.S. Will be lifted up again

  8. Isaiah 3: The first thing he deals with in a Rebellious nation is the STOCK and the STOREHOUSE. We were warned at 911 when we saw Wall Street on fire that the Lord is dealing with USA. He’s going to crush America’s idols including $$$$. We must remember that God’s Judgments are GOOD! They are Merciful. “When my judgments are in the earth, the people will learn righteousness.” As Liz said, Do not be afraid. The Lord always spoke after the Woe unto you who rebel against the Lord with “Say unto the righteous- ALL WILL BE WELL. God is Good!

  9. Enos Yoder Mar 19th 2015

    Yes indeed my brother! It is time to blow the trumpet,for truly the time is at hand. The LORD told me to get out of debt in 2006. And a very close friend had God speak to him recently ,so he sold out as well.
    Amen! The bubbles will burst!
    This is no time to play but to walk in the light and preach the truth.

  10. Barbara holder Mar 19th 2015

    We r out of debt and do not use credit cards any more The word says “owe no man any debt but the debt if love”

  11. Ninan, the US has to be free of sin…to be lifted up…there will be a cleansing, and I sensed the Lord wanted us to concentrate on our own communities or the people we could reach, not to think of saving the nation as a whole IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.

    Where there is sin, the wrath of G-d remains unless someone stands in the gap. I have had dreams of a nuclear bomb in the US etc. which I never thought about before the dream, and I have prayed against them. However with the US as a nation be led of the Lord in your prayer…there is a cleansing first – in the VICTORY…

  12. paul austin Mar 19th 2015

    1 Tim: 5: 8 But if any provide not for his own & especially for those of his own house he has denied the faith & is worse than an infidel.
    Provide in this context is to make provision prior to the event Spiritually, physically, mentally & financially.
    Do not trust the “system” the prince of this world is Satan & he has an agenda
    Prov, 22: 3 A prudent man forseeth the evil & hideth himself, but the simple pass on & are punished
    Folks we live in the age of information & this is a time for survival so look up survival websites & remember we are only 9 meals away from anarchy. Josephus stated that they were eating their own children in the siege of Jerusalem 70ad

  13. Trevor Knoesen Mar 19th 2015

    Please read Johnathan Cahn’s latest book. He deals with this concerning the warnings of the Shmitah year. They are expecting the worst around the Feast of Trumpets this year. That is 13th September. The Illuminati, or world elite have either conspired or are making a fortune out of this. We may not be that far away from the Mark of the Beast concerning the turmoil of world finances. That means the rapture is that close. At the Feast of Trumpets, this year, next year or the following????

  14. I agree. Friends of ours were just about to get a mortgage but as they were praying about it God clearly told them both not to go into debt.

  15. No book explains it like “The Schemitah” by Johnathan Cahn! The book is priceless in explaining what is coming and when and how to handle it. Awesome and the MOST popular author in the USA and a mighty spirit filled man. What a precious gift to read this book. A very inexpensive book too. Every believer should read it and become prepared for time is so, so short. Our Lord IS COMING SOON!

  16. Michael Cox Mar 19th 2015

    I think this is excellent advice. I would like to offer a link to you to hear a financial person’s take. He is also a Believer and has a pod cast and a web site. Go to:From: Jerry Robinson Ministries
    Date: March 16, 2015 at 11:23:14 AM CDT
    To: Michael
    Subject: WEBINAR REPLAY: 3 Lies Christians Believe (Link Inside)
    Reply-To: Jerry Robinson Ministries
    and listen to his webinar called “3 Lies Christians Believe” It will help you understand why we are in such a financial difficulty world wide.

  17. Michael Kemp Mar 19th 2015

    “It is always better for a Christian not to get into debt if this can be avoided, for the borrower is the lender’s slave”. Some debt is unavoidable eg mortgages, but this needs to be for the minimum amount and shortest term. For the Lord may return at any time.
    But Christian’s should not be afraid to lend, as long as this is not done in expectation of any gain, or even repayment.

  18. Jerry newton Mar 19th 2015

    God says it is time once again.for Israel to get out of bed of Egypt again.he says time is of the essence. he says I will have a gathered people. he says I will gather my people into one place. I will have a people I can call my own. I will have a people who I can point to and say these are my people! I will gather my people Israel from the north south east and west. my covenant people are called Israel. Judah has been gathering to Israel for decades.he says I established America for my people as a place together together and become one. he says if you are not one you are not mine.Wake Up America and become one.

  19. I, too, agree. There will always be buying and selling, but very possibly at a greatly reduced rate as products and services are diminished. Being out of debt is always a good thing and, I believe, a Biblical requirement for God’s people. For example see: Proverbs 22:7, Luke 14:28, Romans 13:8.

    I have felt over the years that the Body of Christ needs to work together (not just see each other once a week in a building) – ditch the denominations and come into unity in Christ in the Holy Spirit. We need to use the gifts and talents we have been given by God to build up the Body – that means not only to disciple one another, but to provide goods and services one to another as an example to the world. You might read that as barter with one another. This, I believe, will become more necessary as things get tougher in certain regions of the world. For example, trading hand-made goods or home-grown food for house or car repairs. What an awesome, practical example of unity that would be to the world looking for hope. It’s not something very common here in the USA, but, there are pockets of the nation where it is happening.

    The enemy, via entertainment and computers has allowed (not forced) us to isolate ourselves from each other with the excuse of “needing down time”. My sister-in-laws grandmother warned (I believe prophetically) some 50-60 years ago about the influence of TV and how the enemy would use it. Even if we watch the most wholesome shows on TV, the separation from the fellowship of the Body by religiously secluding ourselves to watch it will eventually have negative affect – both on us and others.

    Most of all, be in prayer when you see the day coming – and I think many of us already see it coming. If we are not spiritually prepared we are surely not physically and emotionally prepared and are subject to making decisions based on our human intellect and emotions instead of being lead by the Holy Spirit.

    Jeremiah 29:10-14 (NIV) : 10 This is what the Lord says: “When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place. 11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. 12 Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. 13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. 14 I will be found by you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back from captivity.[b] I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile.”

    This was a word to Jeremiah when he was in captivity and I believe we, as a nation, may be lead into captivity to get the people of this nation to return to God. My hope is that the Body will learn from the past and not repeat it and begin praying and acting now, before it too late.

  20. Charles, I am going out on a limb when I say this. Re. the church, we should study history, how the church system was set up, the rebellion that guided many roman catholic doctrines which are rooted in every form of christianity.

    The Lord of the “old testament” is the same Lord of the “new testament.” The coming of Jesus was the fulfillment of the Promise of the Lord made to the Jews in the Beginning. It was continuous with no break. There was no old and new testament for the followers of the Lord who were all Jewish; (He only preached in Israel), and they knew their scriptures as their life revolved around the Synagogue…

    roman catholicism was officially recognized around 300 years after the Lord left the earth, and around 250 -230 years after the last apostle had passed away. THE LORD IS OUTSIDE TIME AND SPACE. Therefore the rebellion of a system 2000 years ago is rebellion today.

    The Father spoke to me very clearly about 4 years ago and told me the system is unclean and I should not touch it. This is in line with the Heart of the Father expressed in chapters like Deuteronomy chapter 7 and 13. I began to study the Promises of the Moshiach (Messiah) in Orthodox Judaism, (other forms of Judaism like reform and conservative Judaism don’t always recognize the Messiah), and I began to see them as already occurred while they are waiting for Him. So I began to live my life that way.

    It took me a long time to let go of the church system. After I did, there is no confusion – the ability for me to walk as the Lord -see 1John 4:17.

    I think what is important to know is to connect the heart of a person to every encounter they have with the Lord. It could often happen in a church because of the atmosphere or the commitment of the person in a church setting to seek the Lord.

    It is the heart of the person that is important. That is why there could be people in the same church service who react differently. Some encounter heaven, and some don’t…It has little to do with the church but all to do with your heart, AND THE IMPORTANT THING is that if the church or any other thing you hear or perceive with your 5 senses, is NOT projecting or preaching the Word, then you are poisoning your system…

  21. Exactly what I’ve been hearing (from the Lord’s urgings) and wisdom (seeing what’s going on in the financial world). My wife and I have committed to getting out of debt and the Lord is providing marvelously! Debts are halved since January and, God willing, we should have little left by September.

  22. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 19th 2015

    Re: The coming STORM

    IF you were sensitive to the constant teachings of the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus the Christ, you would have been consistently teaching GET OUT OF THE CITIES NOW! for the past 10 years with increasing urgency.

    IF you knew the identities of Jacob in the Last Days,
    you would KNOW what is coming to the United States
    and Britain soon. Ephraim, the son of Joseph born in Egypt and Manasseh his older brother, were ADOPTED by Jacob/Israel and given a blessing for the Last Days, his portion as heir to the COVENANT with GOD.

    Ephraim was to become a COMMONWEALTH of nations and rule the world for a time. As his power waned, Manasseh was to come to power and be the greatest single nation the world had ever seen. The two brother nations, ruling together, would control 2/3 of the resources of the entire world….and the GATES of their enemies. Look this all up in Genesis 48.

    In the Last Days….Ephraim is Britain and her commonwealth. Manasseh is the USA. What is coming that you feel uneasy about is called THE TIME OF JACOB’s TROUBLE….and shows we will come to the aid of physical Israel when she is attacked from all sides by ISLAM who will be given nuclear weapons under the table by Russia. We will destroy all of Islam….and Ezekiel says ‘a man shall have his flesh shriven from his bones, his eyes and tongue shrivelled in their sockets, AS HE STANDS UPON HIS FEET! That’s a 3000 year old description of the effect of
    nuclear weapons.

    After we destroy Islam, we (Jacob of the Last Days, Britain and the USA) will go after Russia for supplying
    nukes to Islam. The nuclear exchange between the three will destroy all three nations….killing their population and adding to the 1.6 Billion Islamists who were already killed….making a total of 2 Billion who will die during the 5 months of escalating nuclear war of the Time of Jacob’s Trouble. That’s 1/3 of the population of the world that will die during that TOJT
    5 month period.

    With the US, UK, Russia, and all of Islam GONE from the world…..the way is open for the antichrist to arise
    from GERMANY and take over the world. Revelation 13 says the antichrist cannot come until ‘that which prevents is removed’. That is NOT the removal of the Holy Spirit or a rapture…..that is saying that Jacob of the Last Days will be removed….the USA and Britain.
    Remember, Jesus promised He would never leave us or forsake us…even to the end of the world. The Holy Spirit will NOT be removed, there will be no rapture….and many will lose their false faith because there is no rapture. The true believers cannot be taken from God’s hand…..this is a further separation of the sheep and the goats.

    He (antichrist world leader) will allow Germany (the wings of the Eagle) to help
    Israel’s Jewish clerics rebuild the temple of Solomon
    for the 3rd and final time. When the Jewish clerics reinstate animal sacrifice in the temple, they will have
    REJECTED Christ for the SECOND time…..the only
    unpardonable sin. The German world leader will stand in the temple and declare himself to be god. And, they bring judgement and destruction down upon Israel and remaining mankind.

    But, God (Jesus) says He will not make a total end of
    Jacob, but preserve a REMNANT of His people (the US and UK) through the Tribulation of those days.
    Revelation 13 and other places say this remnant will
    be the thorn in the side of the antichrist world ruler and the ONLY people who will stand as one and tell the antichrist to his face they WILL NOT bow, will not bend knee to him, nor worship him as a god…….KNOWING
    he will cut their heads off. These are Christian remnants of the USA, mostly, who have NEVER had
    a king other than the KING OF kings and LORD of lords, the Lord Jesus the Christ. The Lord will be proud of them….you can see it in the scriptures of the prophecies.

    So, wake up! Your redemption draweth nigh. Stand on your faith and let your eyes be opened to the prophecies of the Last Days. DO NOT FOLLOW ANYONE! Seek the face of the Lord Jesus the Christ
    in a PERSONAL one on ONE relationship. Serve and obey only HIM! He has prepared over 1000 hidden redoubts across the USA and Britain for His people to
    seek refuge in as nuclear fire destroys the land around them.

    LISTEN for the teaching of the Holy Spirit….which will resonate with your spirit and verify everything I have just posted. Listen to and obey ONLY the Lord Jesus the Christ.


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  23. Letetia Parker Mar 19th 2015

    I agree, we must sound the alarm to awake and warn the Body of Christ. So many are oblivious to what is really going on, and seem to be deaf when it comes to hearing what the Spirit of God is saying!

  24. I think that a greater step needs to be made. The word says that Romans 8:5
    Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.
    We should take heed that our plans to avoid the coming tribulation demands that we walk by the Spirit and not lean on our own understanding. That is the only way that we can pass through this time of upheaval.

  25. Andrew, I have felt a sense of growing urgency in my spirit for a few years now….it is on my heart every day – and growing. ISIS and the increasing violence of the Islamic “fronts” and their determination to wipe Israel off the earth, their hatred of Jesus and Christians, continues to grow exponentially. Economies around the world teetering on collapse, moral collapse, and terrible violence within our communities, the acceptance of the church of so much false doctrine…..to me, all points urgently to God’s people to prepare themselves for the Lord Jesus’ return. Never have the days been so perilous.

    Just the other day I read that a NASA scientist has warned America that it’s “food bowl” – California, has ONE YEAR’S WATER left, then there will be no more. 60% of their water supply goes to growing(most of) the country’s vegetables and fruit. The GMO grain crops so touted years ago to be the food supply for the world and now proving to be the world’s food disaster!….and will eventually cause the collapse of grain supplies which not only feed the population, but also the vast herds of factory-raised meat.

    Now is the time for ALL Christians to look up and see the salvation of the LORD as HE leads us through the Red Sea, through desert places on to the new Promised Land. We must trust in Him with all of our hearts, and lean not on our own understanding. In ALL of our ways we must acknowledge Him, and He WILL direct our paths! (Prov.3:5-6) We MUST purify our hearts, cleanse our hands, repair the doors, build the walls, and stand watch, for the Day is at hand. He is coming as a thief in the night, and may our lamps be ready, filled with the oil of His Spirit, watching into the darkness of the night that surrounds us….may we BE PREPARED, and NEVER hear those dreadful words, “I never knew you!”

    The urgency has NEVER been greater! As it was in the days of Noah……

  26. Bro. Nick Nicholas Mar 19th 2015

    I absolutely concur with your understanding
    – those who are truly ‘Biblical CHRISTians’ must remember the very strong warning that was given to us by the Apostle Paul:
    “But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
    For the love of money is the root of all evil:
    which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith,
    and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”
    (1 Tim 6:9-10 [KJB])

    I recently read an article about CHRISTians in Niger having their church buildings and the contents destroyed by fundamental Mohammedans – their reaction was – they didn’t destroy “the church” – they destroyed ‘stuff’ – and then they publicly forgave their enemies! – WOW – Now that is Biblical Christianity in action!

    The article is ‘Addressing fear with faith’ @

  27. David Kelling Mar 19th 2015

    Shalom Friends: Yesterday a friend sent me a U-tube video by Chuck Missler called: Regime change in America and the antichrist, for a 14 minute video it is worth watching, eye opening in fact, so give it a look and post what you think? Johnathon Cahn’s Schemitah is good but I wonder if he understands who is Israel or a Jew. Saul, Paul, says it is the inner man. In the book, The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel Found, Collins make the point that the blessings of the Northern tribes ended up in the forming of America. Also what is the difference between physical Israel and spiritual Israel? Yes we are protected by the blood of the Lamb, Yashua: Amen.

  28. Lawrence Rayborn, if Jesus is your Head and you are in His Body, you are just like Him NOW – 1John 4:17.

    As the Lord asks, “where is your faith?” You can never encounter the Lord without Faith in Who He is…Without Faith, the Bible says, it is impossible to please Him…

    When I am in My Father as the Lord Jesus told us (see John 17), and we hold the earth in our hands, do I fear the city???? NO!!!…I walk as He walks and I live as He lives…if He tells me to leave the country I will and if He leads me to leave the city I will,,,but it is not for fear, but because I obey My Dad…He leads me only into Goodness and Mercy and Blessings overtake me – Psalm 23.

    The Lord IS HIS WORD -John 1:1.

    Let every man be a liar and the Lord be true…I would not believe your word…and you please check with the Lord before you declare something as the Lord said, for your own Blessing. He told us that we WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERY WORD WE TRANSMIT (SPEAK)…

  29. As we are made in the Image and Likeness of God…every word we speak and every thought we think creates reality…Let us consciously awaken as Sons of God in the Blood of Jesus to declare His Will in creation, and the tiny speck of the earth…in the heavens and galaxies…

    As we live and walk and manifest the Moshiach (Messiah) He comes again…maybe our idea of waiting for Him to come again when we are not Jewish, is not quite correct…We are Him…let us walk as He walks doing greater things than He did, because He said we will – John 14:12.

    The Lord is your Teacher – Matthew 23:8-10, not any organization or person…unless the Lord speaks through them. When He does He will never contradict His Word…

  30. We have been out of debt living within our means by the Grace of God. Collapse is coming this fall into next year according to many secular and spiritual sources. The only safe refuge is our Lord, a very present Help in trouble.

    I pray that the prayer line could be reopened so intercessors could come together and pray for the remnant. Andrew?

  31. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 19th 2015

    Oh….BTW, while I’m at it, Obama is turning the USA away from supporting Israel. Want to know who Obama
    is? Look in the bible at the Little Horn predicted to come in the Last Days in Daniel chapter 7. He will rise up,
    be politically popular, and seek to change times, traditions, laws, etc……and he will be deposed without hand…that is, no one will help him when his wicked deceits are discovered and he is driven out of office.


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  32. Clare the Lord can come now into your reality in the way that you believe Him for an end times entry. He is outside time and space so He is not bound by linear time…He is the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and the Omega – all at the same time…The last therefore can be first…

    The bible was written linear time wise so that we humans could understand…It is always present tense, because the Lord has no end in time…so you cannot think a spirit being (as we are) has a past or a future in time terms…we ARE as I AM…1John 4:17.

  33. I try to follow economic events. I heard that rising interest rates will signal the beginning of the worldwide economic collapse. The rates may rise as early as June. Related announcements are set for September. The global currency will be backed in part by gold. Buy gold and silver, they are at lows right now. Look to Greece as the model of what could happen here.

  34. Martin Armstrong who is the premier economist is forecasting that there will be a sovereign debt crisis and a bond collapse starting the end of September, 2015. However, he is also saying that the Dow will go sideways and eventually up in the next year. Gold and silver will begin a new bull market within a year’s time.

  35. Bro. Nick Nicholas Mar 19th 2015

    I have heard in the past that the severly persecuted ‘house churches’ in China has prayed that the true Church of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” here in ‘Amerika’, and other ‘westernized countries’ would come under persecution – so that we would be purified, and come to a very real Biblical understanding of what true CHRISTianity really is!

    How many really want ‘God’s way’, that are willing to pay the price that truly “converted” CHRISTians will have Biblical revival and growth – and that many-many Mohammedans, Hindus, Buddhists, and other lost folks will come to saving faith in “Jesus Christ”? It is happening with our brothers and sisters in the Persecuted Church – which is growing exponentially – only because they are willing to ‘pay the price’ for the very real presence and power of “the living God”, “the Lord God Almighty”!!!
    It is happening in Iran – and North Korea – and many other countries where there is a real price for being a real CHRISTian – a follower of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” – even unto Martyrdom.

    Do we also really believe and want to be ‘Biblical CHRISTians’ who will actually ‘trust and obey':
    “(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
    (2 Cor 5:7 [KJB])

    How many of us really:
    Ҧ Trust in the LORD with all thine heart;
    and lean not unto thine own understanding.
    In all thy ways acknowledge him,
    and he shall direct thy paths.”
    (Prov 3:5-6 [KJB])

    Those few who are truly CHRISTians should take absolutely seriously what “the Lord Jesus Christ” personally has told those of us in this Laodicea age in which we are living:
    “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten:
    be zealous therefore, and repent.
    Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
    To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
    He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”
    (Rev 3:19-22 [KJB])

  36. Yes, we have a storm coming. Just look at the signals/signs in the heavens. We have a Prophet raised for these last days (Rabbi Cahn) and we are living in a Sabbatical year as well as a Fourth set of Tetrad Eclipses (Blood Moons) which has NEVER happened before in all of history. With respect to these events, I got a shocker when I looked at the occurrence of the partial solar eclipse in the Antarctic when The Feast of Trumpets begins, it is going to occur at about the same time when my wife was killed on Trumpets 5 years ago. TOO much of coincidence to suit me. Wonder if that is the answer, as it puzzled me as to why she was killed on The Feast of Trumpets. Myself, I have known that this civilization was coming to an end more than fifty years ago and the I HAD NO knowledge of The Book of Revelation or of The Book of Daniel. May The Lon of Judea return SOON.

  37. Wayne Haycraft Mar 19th 2015

    Yes, we are living in the last days and will see a lot of unpleasant things happen this year. We will not be able to stop it by our own efforts. All we can do at that time is rely on the Lord.

  38. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 19th 2015

    Liz 48……..

    Miss Liz…..the Holy Spirit has been teaching with some urgency GET OUT OF THE CITIES NOW! because they have become the refuges of gangs, perverts, and all sorts of wickedness true Christians should not be associated with by proximity. Just as the Lord sent His angels to physically lead Lot and his family out of Sodom before it was destroyed…..the Lord is summoning Christians to walk out of the cities that are about to be destroyed while they still can. The Holy Spirit is pleading with Christians to physically remove themselves from the areas that are going to be destroyed soon as the Lord exacts His Judgement and Chastisement on the USA and Britain (Jacob in the Last Days).

    And though the Lord Jesus the Christ is quite capable of standing WITH you in the heart of a nuclear fireball
    as it destroys your city….and you walk out unsinged….
    your niggling doubts will cause you to be consumed because you can have NO DOUBTS whatsoever
    when expecting a miracle from the Lord. Your doubts are not His failing….they are your human, fleshly shortcomings.

    We establish that one on ONE personal relationship with the Lord Jesus the Christ and we live day to day,
    second by second asking Him to bless us with strong faith with no doubts until He sees fit to call us home and bestow upon us our glorified bodies that will never die….and allow us to live with Him on the restored Earth forever.

    This is our hope….that the Lord forget us not….and resurrect us to life everlasting. That is His promise to us who believe on Him and LOVE Him with every fiber
    of our being. We have no existence without Him.

    Perfect love casteth out all fear…..so that you may stand in a nuclear fireball unscathed….or stand and spit in the eye of the antichrist…tell him you WILL NOT
    bow to him or worship him. Your faith and indwelling of the Holy Spirit will give you the words to say at the right time and to go without fear to be beheaded for that faith should it come to that.

    I look for preachers who exhibit that constant teaching of the Holy Spirit….GET OUT OF THE CITIES NOW!!
    I’m looking for the true small shepherds who follow the
    GOOD SHEPHERD, the Lord Jesus the Christ in TRUTH and LOVE……and present their small flocks
    unblemished to the Lord. I can tell you, there are precious few such pastors out there.

    I am not a preacher, not a teacher, not a prophet. I am
    simply a voice in the wilderness crying ‘Make straight the path of the Lord, for He is soon coming!’

    I want more Christians to KNOW where we are in prophecy right now….the identities of the players….and
    WHEN to expect the Lord to return so that we might not be caught unaware. If anything….I am a SENTRY
    on the wall.


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  39. I have worked in the “debt industry” for many years. It is amazing how many are actually “in debt”. I live in the UK and i know many christians who live on “credit card” which they pay off every pay day, but if payday never came it would be a problem. Most debt is caused by big business who want more and more in terms of credit terms. However, in over 30 years experience the worst payers are “christians” including those running a business-it does not endear us to those outside the church., this is where we fail. Our only debt (for those living in the UK) should be our “mortgage”, when we buy a house, as no one can afford one outright.There are people “out there” who can help those who are in debt. the more you have on credit the greater the risks as only your “lender” is benefitting

  40. As it is written, “Unless the days are cut short for the sack of the elect, there will be no life left on earth.”

  41. All I wanna know is Jesus Christ and Him crucified as I continue to be Led by His Spirit and pray, pray, pray for Great Awakening. Pray ON, dear Family! HE is worthy!

  42. Lawrence, I understand what you are saying. I was in Boston and the Lord told me the skies there were like brass…and it was for me financially. It was to me a sin city with the gay bars, etc. I worked, as a student, 3 jobs and yet had lack. He led me to go to the outskirts of Denver, and I was so Blessed…one job paying me much more and an awesome manager…

    I agree with your proximity teaching – see Psalm 101. I am sure you will agree the the timing of the move, the new location etc. will be led by the Lord…as we wait on Him…

  43. The Lord is at the door. There is a storm coming. It’s a storm of persecution the likes of which we have never seen before and unless the Lord shortened those days then there would literally be no saints left on the earth when the Lord returns. How to get ready? Well it is mere common sense not to be in debt any time if you can avoid it. The saints on earth must prepare themselves for martyrdom. Hold all things of this world loosely. When the catalyst occurs and overnight genuine saints become the enemy of the whole world, it is not going to matter whether you have debt or not, whether you have a backyard full of buried guns and ammunition and food or not, whether you have a property that is off the grid or not. All that is going to matter is blood of the lamb, the word of your testimony and that you love not your own lives unto death. Those who try to save their lives will lose them. Those who willingly lose their lives for the Lords sake will gain eternal life. In Revelations all the promises belong to those who overcome, to those who endure till the end. This promise is made to the rich and the poor, to those who are financially solvent and to those who are not. Get ready saints, be ready, this is the charge made against the five foolish virgins, they were not ready. Are you ready and are you willing to worship a God that has called you to lay down your life? I think the true coming storm will answer all those questions. It will certainly separate the wheat from the tares no doubt. God will pour out His Spirit of Glory on all those who willingly suffer for His sake. In those days, the glory of the Lord will cover the earth as the waters cover the sea. For where there is worldwide persecution, there will be worldwide glory, and the saints will finally be unified and be a witness, and then the end will come…………bro Frank

  44. David, calling oneself a christian means nothing…If one can perform miracles and have faith to move mountains and yet be rejected of the Lord as the person does not identify with Him, how much more will a mere label be rejected. (See Matthew 7, 1Corinthians 13).

    So if there are people who identify as christians do not follow the Lord or obey His Voice, they are not of Him and are to be identified as such. You can regard them with the bunch who do not know the Lord, who often may be better because, on the principle of sowing an reaping, the non-christian, could do better off. The non-christians good deeds, words and thoughts could bring him good things.

  45. I do feel the same way and have been trying to operate in a way that would be more prepared for what is coming.

    “That is why I tell you not to worry about everyday life–whether you have enough food and drink, or enough clothes to wear. Isn’t life more than food, and your body more than clothing?
    Matthew 6:25

  46. God told us to get out of debt in 2004, before the economy collapsed and since then we have kept debt out of our lives except for our house which we cannot pay off right now.

  47. Kanada Col Mar 19th 2015

    What I find very interesting is the variety of the 39+ (and growing) comments on the subject, from our brothers and sisters in the Lord. I don’t agree with all of them, but what is most noteworthy is that the Holy Spirit around the world is waking believers up, with a similar sense of urgency to be prepared for the times ahead. Ultimately, I believe the top priority in preparation is a preparation of the heart, to be completely and utterly surrendered to the Lord, and to not forsake our First Love with the One who gave His life for us, that we might have life and have it more abundantly.

    This relationship with Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit must be our top priority. With any long-standing loving relationship, those involved must invest quality time together. In building our relationship with Him, He will inevitably lead us (and is already leading us) to build relationships with others who love Christ, and will not bow to the idols of this world.

    As for me personally, God gave me two identical dreams in 2009 of the same warning: sell the house and get out of debt. We did, and oddly I have recently come to know 3 other local Christian families who have done the same of their own volition. There are many others I do not know, who have felt similarly…the comments on this website post show us this. I am not advocating anyone sell their homes…I am advocating obedience to the Lord’s directive to you, in whatever capacity that entails.

    What has transpired in the past 5 years since being obedient to those dreams has been nothing short of miraculous. Through revelation and confirmed over and over by God through his Word and corroborated in other ways, the Lord led us to this little farm. THE END?

    No, the beginning…

    Your brother in Christ,

  48. Johnathan Khans book is only partially correct. Exodus 12 states when a biblical year begins in the month of aviv. THAT IS TOMORROW!!!! Tomorrow is the beginning of seventh sabbatical year IE the Jubilee year. Get out of debt because to whom you lend his slaves you will become! Even if you have to go bankrupt, nothing is worth holding onto. we’ve got friends giving up their million pound businesses to get out of debt NOW! Do not delay!

  49. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to comment Andrew. Just a few questions I asked myself: What difference does it make if we are in debt when the collapse happens? Thinking of the past economic disasters, during wars armies come in and take what you have. Remember just recently reading about ISIS rounding up all of the minorities and telling them to get out of their cities and towns? Even if they were “out of debt” what difference did it make? They fled to the mountains with just what was on their backs.

    When the Communists took over China, they took from everyone, debt free or not.

    Charles Marlow, I agree with you 100%. Thank you for taking time to proclaim what is first to God. Matthew chapter 24 seems be a good place to start. The prophets of today are given to the church to simply proclaim what is written. Sit under an anointed pastor and you would have your eyes fixed on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.

    Yes, if you are alone with God even 15 minuets every day, in His word and on your knees, you know that the time is near and He is calling everyone of us to let go of down here and get close to Him. Hard to hear His still small voice with all of our hordes of money and technology, etc.

    Jesus tells us in Luke 21:34: “But watch yourselves lest your hearts be weighed down with dissipation and drunkenness and cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly like a trap. For it will come upon all who dwell on the face of the whole earth. But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

    Luke 17:20-37 Will give us a sense of what He would have us do. Colin, thank you for being before God and I believe His word to us for these times. He has given us his word to read and learn and each day to grow in our relationship with him.

    “Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light.

    (Romans 13:11-12 ESV)

  50. There are lots of churches and leaders that have put people in debt to build and support their exstravagant style of living. Could this be why Judgement starts here first? Payback now or payback later, you know the answer. The Trouble is not just the tribes, it is within the tribes, where is the peace maker? He will not Tarry.

  51. This is interesting, as I believe this is something Christians have needed to be doing years ago.

    And I will go with scripture on this one… ( Ok, some might think I am off base but I will go ONLY with the KJV in this ) And quite frankly I think it is the only bible we should be basing anything on.

    Proverbs 22:7 states…. “The rich ruleth over the poor,
    and the borrower is servant to the lender” So if we are in debt it will burden us. As I have had this happen time and time again over several years. We all need to be as free and clear of debt as we can at all times.

    If we do not do this,we will be ruled over in our finances by the people or company which lent us the money. And in so we will have a great burden over our heads. I have personally been cutting back on things for several years.

    One reason is plain and simple… why do we need all this stuff? Yes, somethings are ok to have in your life. But not at the expense of being under a yoke of debt. And quite frankly I believe that is what we are seeing world wide, is too many people want to have the latest and greatest things. But don’t really think if it will be a burden to them if they have that neat item.

    So now world wide, people are seeing the results of lusting after the things of this world. And between that and governments making nothing more then play money, a crisis is now about to happen.

    On this note, God will take care of his people. It might not be large amounts of money, but he did promise us daily bread. Luke 11: 3 states this as a promise ” Give us day by day our daily bread. “. I have seen this personally in my life. As I am not without money struggles but I have had provision when it comes to the needs I have daily. Hope this helps.

  52. I have been hearing the same thing “proclaimed” at the start of every 7 year cycle beginning in the 1980’s. Beware a crash is coming and all Christians need to be debt free, which is usually followed by this will be your “Year of Jubilee”. I understand legitimate concerns about not just the economy in America but worldwide. It is prudent to take steps to limit your debt, yet we need to be real and understand that NO one in today’s economy can be totally debt free.

  53. I heard prophet Tracy Harris of Texarkana prophesying about this year and next year and as a matter of fact he said your best action to take toward what is coming is to “GET OUT OF DEBT WITH A VENGEANCE!” Also, he was talking about being a citizen of the Kingdom of God, and how many earthly kingdoms may soon deeply disappoint. Another topic was the darkness covering the land, gross darkness, but we are to be shining lights, we should have something to help the people come out of the darkness. We need to be in the endless miracle supply to provide for all the people on the earth that will be reeling and rocking with the earth in its birth pangs. So if you can be a part of the limitless Kingdom you can supply, but is you are part of the limited kingdom of earth, serving mammon, you will lack.

  54. Kelly Joel Weiler Mar 19th 2015

    OUT OF DEBT ! by all means. this was warned so emphatically by David Wilkerson decades ago already.

    3 others you would do well to hear on this would be Terry Bennett, Nita Johnson, Sadhu Selvaraj

    the 2 first ones are in the USA, so of course what they say has an emphasis on the things that will happen in the USA. They do speak of worldwide events also.

    Terry Bennett was visited by Gabriel for 4 days in 2001, where he was shown 21 years timeline, 2008 and 2015 major pivotal years in the economic upheaval. You will find most of what is to be heard from him on Youtube as easy to find. (no Terry is not a flake, but preaches true separation, the genuine call to overcome, and his preaching does not major on economy, but information on the economy and prayerful, informed response is not to be avoided at this time either)

  55. Dennis Mar 19th 2015

    I have been hearing this from significant voices for a couple of years and I have always thought that Biblically speaking, we should not be in debt. I think many have made excuses for why they are in debt but it doesn’t change the facts. Yes, a tidal wave is coming and we need to be ready and out of debt. We also need to prepare in other ways as the Lord leads each of us.

  56. Wolfgang Luhmann Mar 19th 2015

    Dear Andrew,
    I totally agree with your feelings!
    In my opinion – not only because of charismatic impressions – we will see a showdown of the western economy in the next couple of years. The most important message – decades before as Kelly mentioned anounced by David Wilkerson – is to get rid of depts, get rid of speculative stocks, try to get a new car and invest in the kingdom of God.
    This coming breakdown will be a desaster for the whole western economic but I also feel that it will be a big chance and challenge for the chriostian community.

  57. beehappier Mar 19th 2015

    Life in the church is not about being debt free. It is about being free.

  58. The US is in judgment. I finished the book, finally. It details what I’ve been shown, mainly about how the US will be taken down; but also, about the professing Christians in the states. Finances are the least of our worries if we don’t repent.

    http://www.thebookpatch.com “The Air of Heaven” by Betty Baker Bailey

  59. Brian Hensel Mar 19th 2015

    About 5 years ago Linda and I felt that we should get out of debt in line with God’s will on the subject. We are now out of debt and for a few years have been encouraging others to get out of debt. This ‘calling’ has been getting stronger lately, perhaps as a result of media coverage of the issue but also as a result of observing the Father’s alternative to debt, sickness, relationship issues, etc.
    The people of who claim Christ need also to rely on Christ, not the world system

  60. Andrew Mar 19th 2015

    Many excellent comments and confirmations here, my friends. Worth reading. Thankyou.!!


  61. Sheridan Stanley Mar 19th 2015

    I totally agree. The Lord has been prompting my husband and I to get rid of the debt on our house.

  62. Others have commented that The Mystery of The Shemitah by Jonathan Cahn explains what God is doing in our day. You need to read it and The Harbingers.

  63. Jesus in Luke chapter 16 and also Matthew chapter 6 addresses servanthood and money etc.

    Luke 16:13 “No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.”

    Luke 19:9 “And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by unrighteous mammon, that when you fail, they may recieve you into everlasting habitations”

    One of the outstanding features I saw in the American people when visiting there (and it was as a tourist not ministry connected) was there generousity and thankfullness in comparison to other places I have been.
    What I had difficulty understanding is the amount of people living on the street because they lost a job but are willing to work.
    And why are some prepared to see a brother or sister in pain or die because he cant pay for health care or afford good healthcover…. a pharisee will walk on by when a samaratain stops and helps.
    The well being of America has very much been sustained on the Christian foundations laid up by some of the believeing founding fathers and amount if true believers per population present up until now.
    True prosperity is in the things of God and not the love of money…God is a jealous God and will have no other Gods before Him especially mammon.
    Perhaps a financial crash will get rid of the money grubbing parasite ministries that spread false gospel teachings because their followers wont have enough to support them.


  64. DonaldN Mar 19th 2015

    Andrew, I agree totally. The Bible has taught for 2000 years that Christians should not be in debt. Now God has been warning His people that it is about to get serious. Debt is not even the main issue. The storm that is coming will not even be noticed as a financial problem when the real turmoil hits. The reason we need to get out of debt is that our debt will weigh us down when the time to move comes. If we are in debt, we are slaves to the “system” and the “powers that be” (in society) will be cruel taskmasters. The real storm will challenge every ones faith and commitment to God. So by all means, get out of debt, but while your at it, begin to practice righteousness and holiness too.

  65. I totally believe America has a huge storm (s) coming in the near future. God must place judgement for all the sin in America, and prophesy must be fulfilled. America is not mentioned in Gods’ Word and that makes a person wonder “why”? Is America not going to be here?

  66. Marti Dolin Mar 20th 2015

    You are right on target….
    We are growing and preserving our own food as much as possible and learning as much as we can about herbal and natural meds

  67. The word says that we are to live as if Jesus is never coming, and be prepared for Him to come tomorrow. For those who really trust in Him, life will go on during this time in perfect with Him, but continue to live close to Him, stay grounded in the word. Neither He nor His followers should be in fear, running around hording and most cannot flee where they are living. And believe me, it is not the ones who have the money to flee who will be saved in the end, but those who flee to the secret place of the most high and abide there. Where are you gonna run and where can you hide from the Global Antichrist?

    Where are you gonna hide your stash of food when there are riots in the streets of hungry hoards breaking in all homes?

    You may buy a few months to live in the hell on earth that is coming according to Revelation, but in the end ALL will face the horror and then they shall find out just how much of God they have within them to stand in the wicked hour, and stand fast. Do what you can to have extra water, etc on hand but do NOT depend on your plans and stuff to see you through. Only HE will see you through! THAT is living free indeed!

  68. Totally agree Andrew and may I change one word to make a further comment:
    ‘Get out of SIN and stay out of SIN”.
    A very basic comment I know, but rarely do I hear the term ‘repentence’ spoken/taught about these days.
    What was the crucifixion of Christ for !!!!! – was’nt it something to do with ‘debt’?
    There is so much compromise ‘out there’ and we know through scripture, in this particular comment, what ‘money is’ as regards evil.
    What we are discerning/seeing in the worldly scenario is only a ‘drop in the bucket’ as to what is happening spiritually.
    So yes, along with the rest of the Armour, let us tighten the belt (of truth) so it cannot ‘slip’ brothers and sisters and be honest as to how we are ‘walking’.
    It took us 20 years to get out of debt and it was a journey of discipline, commitment, belief, hope and trust – along with sleeping on the floor, aching muscles you never knew of, the odd ‘discussion’ on priorities and subsequently learning what was important and what wasn’t !!!!
    I can only reiterate how important I believe it is to daily pray for His wisdom, knowledge, discernment and understanding.

  69. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 20th 2015

    Why must the USA be destroyed?

    There are three national sins that force the Lord Jesus the Christ, the ONE and only God, to Judge and Chastise the USA even unto death.

    1. The USA has sanctioned murdering unborn children….over 50 million in the past 20 years.
    Abortions are not ever sanctioned by God.

    2. Homosexuals and sinful perversions allowed in all walks of US life, but especially in government. The Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for such sins and perversions…..He is not going to change His ways.

    3. The USA has NOT kept the sabbath holy. The sabbath has always been from sundown Friday evening to sundown Saturday evening….it has NEVER
    changed. Nations are identified if they belong to the Lord or no by their observation of the sabbath.

    These are the top 3 reasons the Lord HAS to Judge and Chastise the USA unto death.

    A 4th reason is that the USA is turning its back on physical Israel…..becoming antagonistic towards it, even willing to take part in its destruction or at least the
    division of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount. Physical
    Israel is the apple of God’s eye and we are told to NOT touch the apple of God’s eye.

    For all these reasons and many more, the Lord being Just and Merciful MUST Judge and CHASTISE His people….and the USA has been His people in the Last Days.

    As a friend of mine is fond of saying: We SO deserve
    what we are about to get!


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  70. Andrew Mar 20th 2015

    Sabbath, eh?

    Not sure I agree with you there, my friend

    Bless you!


  71. Benjamin Bryant Mar 20th 2015

    Hi Andrew

    I believe that you are right, when you say that their is a financial crisis coming, and to get out of debt.
    I do not know if you have been listening to a Rabbi called Johnathan Cahn and the teaching of the Shemitah. This would seem to agree with your assessment.
    In relation to getting out of debt, we are told to hold no debts except the debt of love. The Lord delivered me from about £35,000 of debt, helping me pay it all off over 7 years. I am now debt free, no credit cards, no overdraft, and no mortgage. Praise the Lord, who is my Provider! Financial debt holds us chained to this World’s System, in a bondage of sorts. I would encourage everyone to get serious about becoming debt free, even if their is a significant material and lifestyle cost. Jesus wants us to be free and unhindered by such concerns of the World, so as to better follow Him. God’s Blessings to all


  72. The Christians fleeing Isis and Boko Harem, they left with the clothes on their backs. Christian brothers and sisters live in abject poverty throughout the entire world. When we who live in countries that have gotten fat off of the other peoples, that’s what we need to repent of. Being in debt is the way we have more than other peoples. I believe in paying your bills monthly, as you have agreed to, however, to “see” that the entire world is coming to end and to focus on finances, seems sick.

    My friend runs an orphanage in Africa. 38 children from drug addict parents. They are constantly needing to move to a bigger place, which costs more and more. People are reluctant enough to give to meet the needs. If we focus on being at out of debt and some can and some can’t, then we are talking about two different gospels. Do you honestly think that when the whole world collapses, those who are out of debt will somehow have an easier time? Maybe if we had some gold saved up, etc. But what we are about to go through are perilous times.

    With the persecution against the saints ramping up as prophesied in God’s word, whether we are out of debt or not will be the very least of our cares. Getting as close to our God as He leads, and repent from whatever keeps us bound to this world, and preaching the gospel message, even door to door, that they all might hear.

    I do believe we should not be in debt, no matter what time it is. But herald a prophetic warning about finances and not sound the trumpet for setting ourselves apart, seems odd. A lot, if not most of the comments are so down here in this world. Like, “Financial collapse, financial collapse!!!!” Like we’re suppose to put our trust in self and make out a plan of how we will get through. We have myriad church classes on how to begin to walk out of debt and have for years. I agree with that too, as the interest we throw away can instead help others.

    My friend had a word picture within the last couple years. From Proverb 18:10 “The name of the LORD is a strong tower; the righteous man runs into it and is safe.” She saw hordes of people running toward the tower, so they knew where to run. However, when they got there they could not find the way in.

    Whatever we do during that time will be in the power of the Holy Spirit. We will know where to go and what to say. The Good Shepherd will lead and guide us. “There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephalim): and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.” Numbers 13:33 Because we walk in the power of God Almighty, it is not our power we walk in and the Scripture clearly points out here that we are not to stir the flock unnecessarily. Whatever is going to happen has already been written down in the Bible. Thus far, many of us have refuse to listen. We have become fat, lovers of self, disobedient. If we will not judge ourselves and pull in the reins on our huge appetites, God will judge us.

  73. paul austin Mar 20th 2015

    Re The Sabbath & keeping the Sabbath………….Jesus Christ is our Sabbath those who are in the Lord have ceased from their own labours & have their rest in Christ Jesus.
    The Christian Sabbath is 24/7 we are not judged by what we eat nor drink nor by Holy days. To those who are quoting OT festivals I urge you to be cautious

  74. DonaldN Mar 20th 2015

    Lawrence Rayburn, it is amazing that you gave 4 reasons for the destruction of the USA, and did not mention at all the Lord Jesus.
    It seems to me that you are breaking the true Sabbath in that you are relying on your works rather than ceasing your own efforts and relying on the Work of God through Jesus. The Sabbath day was given to Israel as a sign of what God did. We are to cease our works of “righteousness” and look to the day when the only thing was God Alone, the Sabbath. You are worshiping the shadow but ignoring the substance.

  75. Gary M Mar 20th 2015

    Of course most people are going to be stuck in/with their mortgage debt. Then again it is a fixed payment not subject to increasing (ARM’s excluded). So it seems (unless I’m missing something) that those with a fixed retirement income (so long as it’s not somehow eliminated) will have some protection. Consumer debt on the other hand is controlled by the banks and hyper inflation could have an immediate effect (e.g., credit cards). But that’s unsecured debt that would be released thru bankruptcy. Lastly it seems that hyper inflation will have a drastic effect of actual cost of living expenses (food, electricity, etc.) which will be a big drain on income regardless of source. This area (cost of living) would seem to be the major impact. You can still find some great bargains on canned food (e.g., 3 for a $1). A 3-month supply would be a minimum to give you time to sort things out. IMHO

  76. His Truth is marching on Mar 20th 2015

    Much more important is to have all our debts forgiven in heaven……..perhaps that’s what all the monetary debts in Christendom is speaking to in these last days, sadly, a falling away from grace.

    Shemitah is all about the forgiveness of sin-debt and as much as I love that rabbi I can’t help but be disappointed that a minster of the gospel isn’t preaching that.

    Love to all..

  77. Jennifer Mar 20th 2015

    Simply, not to trust what others would call an upturn

  78. His Truth Is Marching On, well said.

  79. His Truth is marching on Mar 20th 2015

    Bless the Lord mare, I have hope that whatever chastisements come our way, it will be for the purpose of bringing the church back to our first love……..the simple humble gospel and salvation of souls. Our hope is not in this world, our affections are on things above and our faith is in Him who feeds the sparrows and promises to give us everything we need, praise the name of the Lord.

  80. Serenity Mar 21st 2015

    Psalm 91 verse 1 is the first place to be – entered through confession and cleansing by the blood of Jesus, maintained by walking in obedience to the Spirit and the Word every moment. Each life may be led a little differently, as far as details. I live in a city and the Lord seems to want me here, at least for now. I always thought growing one’s fruit and veges is good, and it is, however, drought here, year after year reminds me of Habakkuk 3:16-19. It is possible that we won’t be able to continue growing most of our food. There is also a law against laying up food, or sharing it with neighbours. All sheep and cattle must be micro-chipped at birth and accounted for to the authorities.
    A mortgage is also debt, to me. ‘Mortgage’ means ‘bondage until death’. Mortgage owers who cannot repay on demand, will be put in debtors’ prisons.
    I feel absolutely blessed to be debt free, as of now.

    Let’s be steeping ourselves in the Word, day and night, so that even if the book is taken from us, we can remember and feed on it and share with certainty what it says. God is sending the hour of the trial which is to come upon the whole inhabited earth, to try the earth-dwellers. He has promised to keep us from it, IF we keep the word of His patience. (Rev.3:10). Praise God !

  81. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 21st 2015

    Mort-gage means ‘bondage unto death’. I LIKE that.
    I got out of debt 12 years ago when I paid off our small farm and we’ve been blessed ever since…..this past year we earned $177,000 and I’m retired, 66 years old. The Lord solved our finances after leading us out of debt.

    That’s more money now each year than I ever made in a year when I was in my prime and working hard as I could.

    Donald N……

    No I’m not worshipping the shadow. I worship only the Lord Jesus the Christ and that every day, every hour, every minute of my existence. No day over another, no manmade hoidays, no manmade congregation shelters with rituals recited by rote. I advocate one on ONE personal relationship with the Lord Jesus the Christ. I don’t need a spirit guide, a pastor, evangelist….no one between me and the God, the Lord Jesus the Christ, I serve and am bond servant to because I was bought with blood by Him.

    I did not list turning away from Jesus the Christ as a nation as one of the reasons the USA is about to be
    destroyed during the Time of Jacob’s Trouble by
    nuclear weapons BECAUSE it should be an obvious
    reason to allow our destruction as part of His Judgement and Chastisement upon our nation.

    You claim to be a Christian….you should understand that as a given.

    The biggest problem with US Christians is they COMPROMISE on everything. You must NEVER
    compromise that one on ONE personal relationship with the Lord.


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  82. Andrew, reading so many comments that have taken the word you gave STORM WARNING and turned it into how to save ourselves financially. Because God has already written all that will happen, His words to us through the prophetic gifting is a warning for our lifestyle, our mediocrity, our worshipping with our lips but being far from Him. Those that proclaim His words of truth, that we can prove are truth, line up with Scripture, so we can look and read and ask for revelation. He is faithful. Words that God has given His Truth Is Marching On, convict and encourage the flock, that our home is not down here. But to go home to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Urged to give up all for Him while we still have time.

    Once we get to the mark of the beast, who wants to go on living, when the church is taken out, as described in 2 Thess. chapter 2. There is chaos throughout the world, not only is money, jobs, goods a problem, but every country is being overrun with another religion, morals are a thing of the kingdom, absent from here. Hatred runs rampant, perilous times the Bible says. Look around! As described in part by Serenity. However, that word too leads into how we don’t want to be in debtor’s prison. Which should not matter to us. Watchman Nee was imprisoned in China for his faith for twenty years and did some of his best work. My friend in Africa is so thin, because he has chosen to serve others and reach a lost and dying world. As HTIMO (His Truth) speaks as the oracles of God. I pray for myself and the church that we would release our grip from our “things” so that we be well used by Him in the short time we have. I believe that is what your word is to the church: Prepare the way, prepare the way for the coming of the Lord. Into each one of us individually. A mark of having the Holy Spirit is a humble spirit. And most of all, the Father’s love for others, enemies included, that we might reach who He would have us reach.

  83. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 21st 2015


    When we get to the mark of the Beast……when will that be? My bible says it will be during the MIDDLE of the 7
    year worldwide reign of the antichrist world leader.

    But, Revelation 13 says the antichrist cannot come until
    ‘that which prevents is removed’. What is that which
    prevents? What has stood between satan taking over the world since the time of Hitler in WWII? The United States and Britain working together to police the world.
    And, as I told you all before, the US (Manasseh) and Britain (Ephraim) together make up Jacob in the Last Days. And Jacob must still come to the aid of physical Israel as it is attacked from all sides by
    Islam. And, after we destroy Islam, we go after Russia for fronting nuclear weapons to Islam to attack Israel.
    The resulting nuclear exchange between the US, UK, and Russia will destroy all three and bring the grand total of those who have died by war during the 5 months of the Time of Jacob’s Trouble to 2 Billion people.

    I do NOT think ‘that which prevents’ is the Holy Spirit because Jesus told us He would not leave us or forsake us even to the end of the world. And, I do not think it is referring to a Rapture….because I don’t believe there will be a Rapture. The great falling away,
    I believe, is a direct result of people losing hope when
    they have long been taught to expect the Rapture and it doesn’t happen.

    But, the US and UK and Russia must be GONE from the world scene for the antichrist to arise from Germany to take over the world….institute his worldwide economy and currency, and cause everyone to worship him as god. To that end, he will identify his followers by a mark in their forehead or in their hand. He will also help Israel rebuild their
    temple before standing in it and declaring himself to be god.

    Armageddon occurs 3 and 1/2 years later with the 200 Million man army of the Kings of East (China, Japan, Korea) meeting the army of the antichrist (EU, UN military remnants) at Armageddon. It is THEN that the Lord Jesus the Christ returns and His countenance
    slays the soldiers on BOTH sides.

    The second set of Blood Moons is set to occur this summer…..and they are recorded as signs of the times….the Last Days. In addition, I think between
    Roshashana and Yom Kippur this year Damascus
    will be destroyed….Isaiah 17:1 prophecy will be fulfilled and warning us Christians of the start of the 5 months of the Time of Jacob’s Trouble that ends in the US/UK destroyed by nuclear weapons.

    IF that happens in the middle of the winter as Matthew 24 and Luke 21 seem to indicate….that’s 2016 and 7 years reign of the antichrist would put Armageddon in the 2023 time frame.

    Mind you I am NOT saying that’s the way it has to happen. It will all happen in God’s good time according to His word….to the letter. I’m just saying that’s my understanding of the timeline right now and what I am led to prepare my retreat for. I continually ask the Lord to reveal more to my understanding every day.


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  84. Andrew Mar 21st 2015


    Sorry Lawrence.

    Not totally tracking with you there, my friend


  85. paul austin Mar 21st 2015

    Regarding the British Israel message that was concocted by the elites of Britain & Europe I would like to advise the readers on this site that God does not have 2 salvation messages.
    (1) You must be born again
    (2) If you are of Anglo Saxon Celtic heritage you are saved because of some bloodline you assume you carry, ie of the tribe of Ephraim (Britain) or the tribe of Manasseh (America)
    For goodness sake the British who were supposedly the tribe of Ephraim inhabited America please can someone tell me at what stage they magically became the tribe of Manasseh.
    The Anglo Saxon Celtic heritage comes from the Japhetic line not from Shem. As the astute Biblical student will be aware the children of Israel could trace their heritage all the way back to Adam verbatim this fact is apparent in the Yellow book of Lecan which traces the Irish Scoti & the Scottish Scoti back to Japheth
    I could elaborate more on this subject but I find more things pressing. We have all come from a long line of people who have survived the turmoil of this world & left families to carry on their inheritance. Jesus Christ left me a message in that I live breath eat & sleep by Luke 22:36 Then He said unto them………But now, he that hath a purse let him take it & likewise his scip & he that hath no sword let him sell his garment & buy one.
    When I bring this message up into todays understanding I can plainly see Jesus is saying protect & provide for yourself a sword would suffice in those days I look to a more sufficient means today

  86. Lawrence wootton. Mar 21st 2015

    From one Prophet to another, Hi Andrew well once again you are right and by the way congrats on your daughter getting married. Yeah, I mentioned in 2008 that 2009 was going to be hard but yrs. 2012 thru 2016 was going to be worse. we will experience great things like mudslides, hailstones, floods and lge earthquakes will come. I saw the Christchurch Cathedral spire fall just days before it happened. You are right with your feelings as within the next two–three yrs we will experience a lot of things like volcanoes blowing and more quakes of significant power. There is going to come lots of money worries for many unfortunately. I have said and will say again GRWG, ( get right with God) time is so short and people are taking things for granted too much. They have allowed themselves to be like a puppet, she’ll be right mate attitude.
    To be a step ahead debt must be settled and within a few months. The Heavens are going to open very shortly and the glory of God will be seen.
    Andrew, my friend keep up listening to God and continue to tell people of the coming events.

  87. Dwight Lobson Mar 21st 2015

    The Lord is calling His bride to come out from being in debt to a false system that relies on man’s wisdom versus the teachings of the Holy Spirit…

    Sadly harlotry, idolatry and a form of Godliness that denies the power there of it has placed many believers under a spirit of bondage. Living, moving and having its being in Him is not at the forefront of most of the western church’s experience.

    In essence the Church is often found reigning without relying on God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit. The Church has stolen the position of the Holy Spirit and now teaches instead of allowing the Holy Spirit to teach in all things…

    FYI my wife and I sold our house in 2014, paid our debts off in full, and purged our excesses of 35 years of marriage. We now live in a modest basement suite rental waiting for our marching orders.

    Even though we are free from economical debt we do not see ourselves called to vacate our city, nor called to run for the hills, buy guns, stock food, fidget before the red moons, nor buy into much of the end time madness that is steeped in subjective fear mongering.

    Nor do we subscribe to 90% of the self-proclaimed false Apostles or false Prophets of the day whom are in bed with politics and ecumenicalism.

    Without showing disrespect we have no need to be drawn into Jonathan Cahn’s Harbinger mindset or any other author or teacher of the day. Frankly we have had enough of the noise and seek to know the Lord better and to follow Him through His Word and Holy Spirit.

    The Lord has shown us that much of the Church has been sequestered to four walls unaware and is likened to a GMO that cannot seem to produce after itself much fruit of the spirit.

    It has been indebted to Hebrew roots, Dominion Theology, false signs and wonders, fake gold dust, false glory clouds, rancid Kundalini, Gnosticism, Esotericism, Mysticism and Emergent purpose driven events…all that have squashed much of the great commission out of existence.

    Think about it…Alpha has become the evangelist for the believer and so few preach, cast out demons, nor baptize or make disciples out of anyone anymore.

    The Church needs to get out of debt with a false system…and serve Christ as a bride with integrity and without compromise…

    Lord lead us…

  88. Dwight Lobson Mar 21st 2015

    PS…2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 The Great Apostasy

    Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[b] is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[d] who now restrains will do so until He[e] is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

  89. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 21st 2015

    Exactly. He that restrains in the Last Days is Jacob….and who is Jacob in the Last Days?
    Gotta go back to Genesis 48 and see that the
    countries derived from Joseph’s sons, Manasseh and
    Ephraim, will together be Jacob in the Last Days.
    Ephraim…a commonwealth of nations…..is fulfilled in the Last Days….Britain. Manasseh, the elder brother, in the Last Days is fulfilled by the USA. They ARE brother nations in the Last Days….and they have policed the world since the end of WWII…..that which restrains….and has restrained the world for the past 70 years, prevented Islam and satan’s minions from taking over and enslaving the whole world.

    Our part in God’s PLAN is just about over. Unlike satan who despitefully uses humans and when through with them, turns them upon each other to kill each other……the Lord Jesus the Christ REMEMBERS
    Jacob, His people, and rewards them for believing on Him.

    Who in the Last Days has sent copies of God’s word into the whole world and exposed most of the planet’s
    6 Billion people to the Gospel? The USA has sent more missionaries than anyone…..yet we are rife with
    our own national sins and ridden by fruits thereof……18 TRILLION dollars in debt….slaves to the world banking/monetary system run by minions of satan for the last 1600 years or more.

    We started out the most blessed nation on the Earth because Christianity was espoused and encouraged
    across the nation as it developed. The Declaration and the Constitution of this nation was evidence of that dedication. Now we are a melting pot and compromised with perversity….encouraging those who mock God to live among us and even have authority over us in our government.

    We SO deserve what we are about to get!


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  90. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 21st 2015

    What precipitates the ‘great falling away’? I submit that
    those CINOs (Christians in name only) who have been taught their whole lives to expect the Rapture (get out of jail free card) will lose their faith and be heart broken
    when it doesn’t happen….so they will turn away, the Great Falling Away.

    The Lord promised He would not leave us or forsake us
    even to the end of the world…..and He promised that
    He would preserve a REMNANT of Jacob THROUGH
    the Tribulation of those times. Jacob, the US and UK in the Last Days, WILL be destroyed by nuclear weapons at the end of the Time of Jacob’s Trouble.
    But the Lord will protect a REMNANT of His people
    in hidden redoubts He has built all over the US and UK.

    I KNOW….because the Lord showed me one of His redoubts…an oasis in west Texas….and when I wanted to build a personal redoubt there….He told me to wait and that He would bring His people in due time. 5 years ago the Mennonites moved in around me, buying up all the abandoned farm land and putting the old farms back into production. God kept His word to me. My small farm is near that hidden redoubt the Lord showed me. He told me He had over 1000 such
    redoubts for His people across the USA alone.

    So, all things WILL be fulfilled to the letter….every jot and tittle….of the prophecies He gave us in His written
    word. BTW…..you should hit your knees and thank Him for having the bible collated and TRANSLATED into ENGLISH for the Last Days so YOU would have the best chance of being exposed to the Gospel and
    understanding it. English became the number one taught language in the world….not by happenstance…but by design. And God had the bible translated into English for you over 600 years before you were born!

    Praise Him and thank Him!


    ol’ Lawrence

  91. Thank God he is always faithful to give direction to His Body as He is showing to some of you. But it is good to know that death, famine or whatever is to come , should never cause any Fear , Worry to any believe who Trust in the Lord. Are you seeking to pay the debt because of the sake of righteousness, and being fair and just or because of the fear of the future? And worst why are you seeking accumulation of material things?
    A very similar situation like this happens in the New Testament Church. It was revealed to the Prophet Agabus that a great Famine was going to come throughout all the Earth and He shared this with the Body. But what was the reaction of the Body ? Did they fear, or try to go and see how the will accumulate more materials things to put their confidence therein? No.
    Then why did God reveal the future to one of His prophet Agabus for the Body body ? God revealed the future to prepare their hearts not so that they will go about searching how to accumulate material things, He reveal so that their hearts will be able to endure the hardship without doubting the presence of God with them, because it is very easy to doubt God presence with us in hard times.
    It is just like how it happens in our personal life, like if we are about to face some hard times individually in the natural how the Lord sometimes reveal in advance so that we will not be surprise and feel like the cause of which is because the Lord has forsaken us.
    When the famine came to pass, the Lord was able to provide and keep his church , of course they may have feel the hunger, the lack but still there was some relieve as those that lack were given some relieve by other brethern and the Church came out of it.
    “And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch. And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea: Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul. (Acts11v27to30)
    They had no stores of foods or materials in advanced and those who had abundance were not afraid to share with their neighbors. The world today has come into the place that you do not need to cross land and sea to find needy people, but just near you there are needy people, work with your hands, and help your family but also give some help to the needy near you, your area and do not put confidence in acquiring materials things as your hope. For if you put your confidence or lay treasure on earth, what will happen if something happen maybe a bomb is drop in the building you store your materials , wont your hope perish. If you are going to save anything it is okay to save but to save because of putting your confidence in your abundance to keep you from the tribulation to come, you are laying your foundation on a sinking sand and not on CHRIST. Christains are unlike eygpt in the days of Joseph because they have God as there heavely father, who counsel them to take no thought of tomorrow given example of the sparrow which has no store houses of materials things yet God take care of them.

  92. Lawrence, we the “Church” are NEVER called “Jacob” Jacob is Israel PERIOD. The Church and Israel/Jacob are TWO different identities. The time of Jacobs trouble (Jer 30:7) is TO Israel/Jacob and NOT the Church going by scripture –

    Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon THY people (Jews/Israel) and upon THY holy city (Jerusalem) to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

    9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

    9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate

    Daniel 9:24-27 makes it very clear that the purpose of Daniel’s 70 Weeks of Years is to accomplish six things among the Jewish people:

    1) To finish transgression. 2) To make an end of sin. 3) To make atonement for iniquity. 4) To bring in everlasting righteousness. 5) To seal up vision and prophecy. 6) To anoint the most Holy Place.

    Just as the first 69 weeks of years (483 years) of the prophecy had NOTHING to do with the Church, NEITHER does the final week of years. The last seven year period of Daniel’s prophecy is about the accomplishment of the purposes listed above among the JEWISH people.

    Lawrence, long story short, it WILL BE a pre trib rapture, PERIOD.

    Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    Notice, UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles be come in (pre trib rapture) now read on –

    Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

    Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

    The pre trib rapture is in PERFECT harmony with scripture, the Church HAS TO be removed for God to finish out His plans and purposes for Israel/Jacob (and so Israel shall be saved)



  93. I wanted to send this though it does not specifically address the word you sent on the financial situation.
    The experience I had was many years ago. I was sitting at my dinning room table and had a piece of paper in front of me. Feeling compelled to pick up a pencil I began drawing a picture. An intensity came upon me and while I was drawing, I began coloring a circle. Over and over I colored this same circle and I seemed to know that I was drawing over a map of the United States. The circle was not specifically over the capital. It was more on the northern boarder, close to Canada and not that Minnesota needed to be pointed out but that was the general location of the circle. As the intensity got stronger, the pencil even made a hole through the paper. Then several octopus like tentacles started to come out of this circle and they were reaching and moving from the large circle to the east, west, south. At that point I felt we would be suffering a communication break down. I seemed to know that that meant telephone communication would come to a complete stand still. Also that travel would some how be difficult. Also during those years of which I did not keep any written record and I doubt I have that paper I drew upon this map, I kept getting the word Amoco Oil Amoco Oil. I was not into prophetic words then but it was so real that I could not help but think that it was God in some way trying to tell me something. The years now that I think back to that moment at my table was sometime in the late 80’s or in the 90’s. All I remember now is the house we lived in when I got this that came upon me at my dining room table and the years we lived in that home were 13 where God blessed us to raise our family.
    The only other time I remember such intensity of getting a word from God I want to share and I do not know why I am sending these two things. But maybe somebody needs to know this.
    This occurred in our current home. I was awakened in the night. When to my computer and started typing. I still have that email but would have to search. The love and compassion began to flow out of me onto the key board and I wanted to tell several people not to be discouraged. I wanted them to know so badly that God was with them and that HE WOULD BE THEIR FATHER. I felt this so very deeply and came with such compassion I had no doubt that this is God. I wanted to tell them NOT TO BE AFRAID God is with them. GOD IS THEIR FATHER.
    I can even feel the intensity as I recall this longing for these people. I did not know where these people were or who they were. I only felt God’s awesome powerful love to the small degree one person is able to feel. I knew it was God my Father praying for someone, some group.
    The next day in the news Warren Jeffs had been apprehended by the police. The prophetic word God gave me was not to encourage people that their leader was coming back as it was God telling a group or several individuals that GOD WAS THEIR FATHER – NOT Warren Jeffs. Warren Jeffs is just a man. Warren Jeffs could not take the place of God, though he tried.
    We each place our lives in the Hands of an Almighty God to be led of HIM and HE will use all things to refine us.
    Now currently I have a question before God and I wonder if there is anyone who can respond with anything God has told them about a word —- SOUND. There is silence and there is SOUND. I have many questions about the sounds we hear. There are obvious sounds we don’t want coming into our lives. Those who desire the pure things of God will know what I mean because those who are drawn to HIM only want what HE wants — and does this include sound. I only want to know if you have heard from God on such an occurrence. The still small voice; Moses going up on the Mountain. Jesus going to the garden. What truly IS the sound of the Father?

  94. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 21st 2015


    In the Last Days Jacob (Manasseh and Ephraim/US and UK) ARE spiritual Israel. Remember, Genesis 48 says
    that when Jacob adopted his grandsons, he said ‘let my name be named upon the lads, let my (Abrahamic covenant) portion be theirs. And God had changed
    Jacob’s name from Jacob (the supplanter) to Israel (one who prevails with God)…..so, in the Last Days the US/UK
    IS Jacob and spiritual Israel.

    There is a distinction between spiritual Israel (Christians who follow Jesus) and physical Israel
    (Jews and other Hebrew tribes who never knew the
    Messiah had come among them….so remain lost).
    God promised Israel (physical) would not be destroyed
    and He would not allow the land to be divided again.

    Yet, you see right now where Israel is compassed about by armies of Islam bent on its destruction and
    the UN….even the US and UK….are wanting to divide
    Jerusalem and establish a Palestinian (Islamic) state
    with the Temple Mount divided and under control of Islam. God will not allow this to come to pass….and that’s where Jacob (US/UK) come in during the Time of Jacob’s Trouble war that ends in nuclear destruction for all of Islam, the US, UK, and Russia.

    We are just a tool the Lord will use during the Last Days to keep His promises to both physical and spiritual Israel…..but you must discern WHO physical Israel and spiritual Israel are.

    To answer your question regarding the Sound of the Father, the Lord Jesus the Christ….I must tell you that
    I was an agnostic when I joined the USAF in 1968. Trained as a Chinese linguist, I got sent to SEA immediately and did 13 months on the ground there with the FACS in Laos (I know…the Pres said we had no combat troops there) and I went airborne when I
    got my second tour assignment to Yokota AB, Japan from where I flew TDY in South Korea along the DMZ, into Vladivostok bay on one end and the north China sea on the other end. One day on orbit someone noticed liquid running down the aisle on the left side of the fuselage….we had sprung a leak in a fuel line…JP4
    was filling the aircraft and we were at 30,000 feet, all on oxygen, and pulling thousands of amps of electricity in the radio intercept gear we were operating……..we were a flying bomb! We turned back to Osan and dead stick landed the aircraft….all us bailed out the back and let the plane continue down the runway with the fire crews chasing it. It NEVER DID explode and burn. It was cold on the runway and I felt like a warm arm on my shoulders, and I HEARD
    my God, the Lord Jesus the Christ, say: Boy, I could have taken your whole crew. NEVER doubt Me again! And I said, YES, SIR!! And I not only have never doubted Him since…..I never forgot the SOUND
    of His voice. And to this day, we still speak often. I told Him since He is the author of the bible…I only wanted to study His word sitting at His feet, and accept no teachings of any man. HE has opened the scriptures to me and there’s been no ambiguity since I asked Him to teach me.

    You know how you can read a passage of scripture and one day it means one thing to you and a week later the same scripture hits a different chord and seems to mean something slightly different? THAT is the mark of a double minded man…..unstable in all his ways….always studying but never coming to an understanding thereof.

    That all stops when the Lord teaches you directly from His Spirit to yours.

    THAT’s why I say seek that one on ONE PERSONAL relationship with the Lord Jesus the Christ…and accept
    no human go between (preacher, prophet, teacher) between you and your God.

    He still teaches me, and has reminded me that He stood on the plain with Abraham and discussed what
    He was going to do to Sodom and Gomorrah….and promised Abraham He would spare Lot for Abraham’s sake. He’s spoken audibly to others…..but only to those who seek Him and won’t compromise with another spirit.

    There are plenty of lying spirits out there that will talk to you if you’re not careful.

    But, the angels of the Lord ARE capable of audible speech…..Recently a toddler baby girl was suspended upside down in her mother’s overturned car and her mother was drowned in her driver’s seat. She was suspended there for over 12 hours….yet when the rescuers arrived they ALL said they distinctly heard a woman’s voice calling for them to help.

    That was an angel of God intervening audibly to save a
    baby child…..probably one of the angels God assigns
    when a baby is born to look out for them.

    When my wife was born as a preemie, she had begun walking when she was inadvertently poisoned by insecticide left out by her father. She was near death and still swears she saw two of her angels…one she called Christopher and another she called Nanny Ma.
    They took care of her and her mother says one time she was sewing up a little suit for her and left it on the bureau in her room…..when she came back, the suit had been finished with tiny stitches she couldn’t do herself. My wife says Nanny Ma finished the suit for her.

    So, IF you seek Him and ASK Him to dwell in you and teach you…..don’t be surprised if He SPEAKS to you
    audibly….and it will resonate with your spirit, shaking you from top to bottom like nothing else.

    I know how Moses must have felt when he beheld the burning bush and HEARD the voice of God.

    Never follow anyone. Ask the Lord to grant you that one on ONE personal relationship with Him.
    I am not a preacher, a teacher, a prophet….nothing. I want no one to follow me…..just make that one on ONE personal connection with the Lord Jesus the Christ for themselves.

    I hope this helps someone who is undecided. Go with the Lord Jesus the Christ….you will NEVER regret the decision.


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  95. Lawrence…

    You said – There is a distinction between spiritual Israel (Christians who follow Jesus) and physical Israel

    Lawrence, there is NO WHERE in scripture where the Church is directly or implied to be “spiritual Israel”

    Israel is back in the Land since May 14th 1948 and that is physical Israel where Eze 37 has partly been fulfilled (Valley of dry bones coming together) BUT! as a Nation they are still spiritually dead.

    Eze 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

    HIS spirit has NOT been put in them YET! that is still in the near future and will happen at the end of the 7 year tribulation –

    Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

    This is when He will put His spirit in them (Israel) and they will become spiritually alive.

    The Church was/is a BRAND NEW thing, it was a MTSTERY/SECRET, HIDDEN in the mind of God and revealed THROUGH Paul.

    Col 1:26 Even the MYSTERY which hath been HID from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

    Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the MYSTERY, which from the beginning of the world hath been HID in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

    Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the MYSTERY, which was kept SECRET since the world began,

    CLEARLY the Church and Israel are TWO different identities.

    We the Church have a heavenly kingdom – Israel will have an earthly kingdom.

    Paul NEVER refers to the Church as being “spiritual Israel” except for once when he used it in a figurative/NOT literal sense (Gal 6:16)



  96. Andrew Mar 21st 2015

    oh dear…..


  97. Andrew Mar 21st 2015

    This is why we end up shutting these threads down


  98. Lawrence wootton. Mar 21st 2015

    So sad that we fight each other and not the enemy Andrew. Ask a question and they go around the mountain with many of their ideas, etc,etc ,etc.writing their agendas and stories which has nothing to do with the question asked. Praise god from where all blessings flow.

  99. David Marsh Mar 22nd 2015

    Hi all,

    Yep, according to Revelation, the end time will be characterised by economic hardship.
    Revelation 6:6
    Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”

    Also, the coming rare 4 Blood Moons and 2 solar eclispes 2014-2016 suggest that the end times are well under way.
    Also, the web site theeconomiccollapseblog.com gives a lot of interesting news that wont be printed in the tightly controlled media.

    God bless you all

    David Marsh.

  100. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 22nd 2015

    I wasn’t arguing with Ken1, Andrew. I was just hoping to
    encourage neophyte Christians to seek that one on ONE personal relationship with the Lord Jesus the Christ and to follow no other.

    The bible says He is the Good Shepherd and his sheep KNOW His voice, and will not follow anyone else.

    I have HEARD His voice and I’m here to tell you when you hear it, you will NEVER forget what He sounds like and what He says.

    I’m of the opinion that part of the strong delusion sent in the Last Days to those who will be lost is the Rapture
    Theory. That, were it possible, even the very elect would be deceived and corrupted. I believe Christian believers are going to be tried in the fire as fine gold, the fire burns away the dross.

    When no Rapture occurs and many lose their faith…..those who are stubborn (God loves stubborn men…Peter and Paul being examples) will say as Job said: Yea, even tho He slay me, YET do I trust Him!
    And they won’t be shaken in their faith simply because the Rapture they were taught to expect did not happen.


    It’s just a matter of time before the US turns against Christians and think it is good to persecute and murder them across the nation.

    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  101. Andrew Mar 22nd 2015

    I think great division will come to America before that happens.

    REAL division


  102. paul austin Mar 22nd 2015

    Re “rapture” I do not see any reference to a “rapture ” in my Bible. I checked in my concordance & Bible dictionaries nope, not there either. I have come to the conclusion those using this .
    term are adding to the Word of God & in adding to the Word they are taking away from the Word & its integrity.
    Let us go to Matt. 24 it is best the entire chapter be read to see who the words spoken by Christ refer to. If we take a short trip to verse 34 we will see who Christs warning go’s out to……The end refers to ” THIS GENERATION” that generation that He was speaking to at that time. He was not speaking to us….Remember He came unto His own & His own received Him not He did not speak to the Gentile to whom most of us are
    Let us go to Matt 26. once again read the entire chapter if you will to get every thing into context.
    If we go to verse 64 we see Jesus speaking to Caiaphas the high priest.
    Matt. 26: 64Jesus said unto him (Caiaphas ) thou hast said never the less I say unto you. Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power & coming in the clouds of heaven.
    Caiaphas’ generation that’s my 2nd witness . Out of the mouth of 2 or more witnesses let every word be established.
    Lets go to Matt16: 27-28 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels then He shall reward every man according to his works.
    28. Verily I say unto you. There be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
    It is to be understood many followers of Christ died premature deaths because of their steadfastness.& their Christian belief
    So as you can see we have the 3rd witness to the return of Christ in His kingdom with His angels. This generation that is spoken about was from 33 ad to the fall of Jerusalem 70ad & onto the fall of Masada.
    Let it be clearly understood the promises made to physical Israel were conditional, they were to walk the walk & talk the talk THEY DID’NT. Physical Israel (Ruling with God) is no more a holy nation nor a holy people they have become the harlot & God has divorced Himself from them
    Am I harsh with my evidence NO. The child of God has been adopted through the body of Christ he/she has become a royal priesthood, a holy nation a peculiar person……….if I may add a very special, special person through adoption we go all the way back to Abraham whom I might add God blessed with gold, silver & many cattle.
    I don’t have a problem with money nor did the Lord. This world is run on fear, put all things to Christ & don’t be afraid

  103. paul austin Mar 22nd 2015

    Hi Andrew
    Firstly I implore you to keep this site open. The Lord has given us all gifts even those with the most simple of suggestion we are all capable of bouncing off all topics of conversation as long as they are confined to the Word of God. If we quote the Word it is not the individual who is speaking but the Lord & as I have stated with 2 or more witnesses let every word be established.
    Please understand in the OT if there were 2 or more witnesses to a serious offence the offender would die this verdict is carried up into our walk in the Lord today & is a Spiritual death
    Don’t add to & don’t take away from the word of God.
    Let me refer to Paul in Gal. 1:8 -9 But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than which we have preached unto you , let him be accursed.
    (9) As we said before so say I now again If ANY MAN PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN WHAT YE HAVE RECEIVED LET HIM BE ACCURSED…….. Paul reasoned this message was worth repeating. Woe betide any one who goes off on a tangent & expresses their own views.
    I hope I am not coming over as a know it all but all I can say it is not of me but of the Lord……as it should be
    Can I take you to Rev22: 8-10 And I John saw these things & heard then .And when I had heard & seen I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things
    (9) Then he sayeth unto me See that thou do it not for I am a fellow servant & of thy brethren the prophets & of those who keep the sayings of this book worship God
    (10)And he sayeth unto me seal not the sayings of the prophesy of this book for the time is at hand
    Here we see a guy who is not an angel but a fellow servant who says don’t get on your knees & he also states “The time is at hand” The time was at hand THEN

  104. His Truth is marching on Mar 22nd 2015

    Blessed and encouraged by your comments james…..it is so true that when we are going through trials of various kinds we often can feel as though we are forsaken by God. This reminds me of Jesus on the cross when He pleaded with the Father asking why He had forsaken him. It brings tears to my eyes, that Jesus the pure spotless Lamb was as though forsaken by the Father, for our sakes, so that we would not be!

  105. Thank you for imploring Andrew to keep this open and let all who belong to God to speak Paul. This is how God encourages His church, through His word (Bible), through revelation knowledge to those who read and study and pray and each has something to bring to the table.

    All prophetic gifting should match up with the word of God, not “a new thing.” Otherwise, how could all of us know truth? One would think he is truth the other would think the same. Yet, we are to all be one in Christ. His word is either true and inspired and living, or it isn’t. When the spiritual gifts are listed in 1 Cor. 12, the last verse 27-31 after telling us that we are individuals in the Body, yet members of each other. Then He says: But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way: introducing us to 1 Cor. 13, the love chapter.

    You only have to remember TBN, Todd Bentley, Elijah List, Elijah House,and myriad others who claim to have the anointing of God. I’ve read a couple of comments where they were way off, but usually Andrew or another commenter will engage them.

    Someone always want to push their way trough the crown and proclaim: “I speak for God!” If God makes us a His spokesman, He will also give you His power, that His sheep will know HIS voice by listening, discerning and comparing to His word. Most on this site have experience going to a gathering where the gifts are being utilized. You know who has the prophetic gifting, they don’t need to tell you. And all flows harmoniously, no one “thinks of himself more highly than he ought to think but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.” Romans 12:3

  106. His Truth is marching on Mar 22nd 2015

    Amen mare, bless you….. I agree with your vision of the Body, because it agrees with the scriptures…..even the backslidden Jewish synagogues of Jesus’s day seemed to have understood this better than the Christian religious institutions of today. I was just reading today in Acts 13 where Paul and companions went to a synagogue, scriptures were read and they were asked if they had an exhortation for the people….and so he had opportunity to teach and preach the gospel. And this is why JESUS had opportunity to often teach, minister and heal in the synagogues, even though he was merely the son of a carpenter. Just imagine then, how so many churches etc, are missing out on JESUS just flowing through His Body and ministering…in humble informal simplicity, each according to their gifts and God’s leading. And everyone subject to reproof or correction, also in simplicity, eg, the prophets being subject to the other prophets to test their words. This way the early church people actually exercised their spiritual senses and grew…….were edified/built up, praise the Lord.

    1 Cor. 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

  107. paul austin Mar 23rd 2015

    Thank you all who support the Word of God. What a blessing this is. Our saviour referred to Himself as the Son of man, a man no more over & above any of us every thing we experience in this life He did also, not only unto death but also with the knowledge this was His destiny.
    Can I take you to 2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver & an anti Christ
    An anti Christ is just that, they don’t believe in Christ the Lord, the one & only way to God & salvation. Please consider,
    The antichrist is not an individual who will come into the world & create havoc., For goodness sake they are here already, millions of them.
    I would like to introduce some facts about Revelation & hopefully put a time scale to these events
    Rev 17:10 And there are 7 kings 5 are fallen & one is & goeth into perdition.
    (11) And the beast that was & is not even he is the eighth & is of the seven & goeth into perdition
    The kings mentioned here are of the Caesar linage 5 were fallen & one was Nero he was the beast his name added up to 666 in the numerical scale & this guy was a beast, please people look to the history of this guy
    Now such were the conditions after the death of Nero (who lived by the sword & died by the sword) people were of the opinion he was still alive hence the Word declares he was of the 7 & even the 8th because of the fact people thought he was still alive . This fellow is the beast, study the facts
    Once again thanks to those who look to the Word for their inspiration it gives one much pleasure they are not alone

  108. paul austin Mar 23rd 2015

    Hello Mare
    I have found a great joy in sharing my thoughts to this site. How privileged we are in this day & age to quote the Lords voice I look forward to hearing more of your input to this site
    God Bless PL

  109. Andrew you said you would advise everyone to get out of debt, sound scriptural advise!

    I am surprised many folk above talk of personal feelings/prophecy s and no one has mentioned Rev 18 !!
    If one understands History and Bible prophecy one should know that our money system is Babylonian

    This system is based on money creation as debt – with interest – unsustainable as the interest component is never created! hence the boom whilst borrowing – credit creation goes ahead, and the bust when things get to far gone, then closure and prepossession, “bad loan” write offs occur, and money supply dwindles.

    Can we comprehend that if every debt was paid off tonight ton=morrow there would be almost no money to circulate? This is because about 95% of the “money we use every day is in fact someone else s liability to a bank? – debt (credit)
    Currently my information is that global debt amount to roughly $220 trillion US!
    The system has invented all sorts of “products” derivatives, Options, Carbon trading (a potential bubble) the all seve to prop up the debt system – one can borrow money to by these airy fairy products thus proping up the whole system and ensuring that when the house of cards finally crumbles the fall will be huge greater than the so called Great depression ( the was nothing great about it rather lies and robbery note that when WWII broke out “money” flowed from everywhere to make weapons of death and destruction, all the western countries ended with huge war debt.)


    Note this is public – Gov. Not private! (housing, business,corporate loans credit cards etc etc)
    I am almost certain that SCRIPTURE tells me the system about to collapse totally, and it precedes the almost immediate return of the Lord Jesus as King of Kings. Isaiah tells us that at that time when His rule begins the “Mountains and hils” – governments and authorities will break forth into singing before us. as they see the King of Kings and His saints begin to restore all systems on our planet . Do do not despair friends. Walk in The Spirit! the future is assured!, and is indeed better than we can imagine or think!
    Pr Michael

  110. Apologies for the many typos
    in my post
    Pr Michael

  111. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire that ye may be rich…………………all that I love I chasten and scourge
    be zealous therefore and REPENT……….
    Many have fallen, many have lost their first faith,
    What is coming is coming………………
    a division is already occurring.
    but will get far , far more devisive.
    Yes, a time of great testing shall soon be upon the land
    and for all the worlds ills……………THEY
    will HAVE their scapegoat. US,
    as with the jew being blamed for all the ills of Germany
    But this blame will be for all the ills of the world.
    As far as how we should be………
    OWE no man nothing, but to LOVE one another.
    Never should our trust have been in the material.
    We should have learned godliness with contentment.
    But many will not learn, many will not hear.
    the transgressors keep getting worse.
    the transgressions are filling up to the full.
    and when that occurs…………….JUDGMENTS ALWAYS COME.
    repentance has long been the DESIRE Of our GOD.
    but long have we prayed.
    and long have not only the world not repented.
    but the churches have waxed as evil as is the world and worse
    for what the world does………………it does
    but what the church does………….IT does in JESUS name.
    calling evil good and good evil………….and we know
    the world has long done that.
    but now the churches have sat for so long
    without discipline, without correction
    without grave men to teach sound doctrine
    till now the iniquity has become….. they claim
    we gods…………..and many are now teaching in churches
    there is no NEED to evangelize
    in fact many like oprah, say many paths to god.
    without rebuking sin , this sin has reached the full in churches now
    till now many in churches honor not marriage
    and the only marriage being honored is the one
    GOD considers abomination.
    and mind you…………this aint just the mind set of the world
    when leaven goes unchecked and men love teachers who twist sound doctrine and preach by the flesh
    the things the flesh likes to hear…………….it only worsens….
    till now……….we have such evil
    and never has it been so accepted by the world
    or the churches.
    Yes, some here can tell me, but randall
    its always been evil n the world ……..
    to which I do agree.
    BUT NEVER has it been this evil in history.
    if one wants to test what I say…………then go
    research history and see
    IF ever the world as ONE
    not only pratices the gay lifestile
    they as one HONOR MARRIAGE BETWEEN same sex.
    NEVER has it been such as the days……..
    I find only that while being gay has been around for thousands
    of years…………I have NEVER
    seen a time such as this when the world
    and many churches not only practice it
    THEY take pleasure in those who do
    and now even HONOR THE MARRIAGE of said persons.
    AND We think judgment is not coming…………IT IS.
    the prosperity gospel of men gave birth to this,
    instead of preaching of HOLINESS and righteous living
    they preached on HOW you can be your BEST YOU and
    be RICH…………and then as time has went on,
    more and more falsehoods have entered the church.
    I have LONG preached on GODLINESS with contentment,
    and I have long been ignored……..
    cause men like and desire to be rich…….
    they have long become ungreatful
    unto GODS SALVATON and HIS prosperity, WHICH IS CHRIST.
    a man who loves the things of this world
    will never truly LOVE GOD FOR HIS GREAT GIFT OF CHRIST ,
    they will always yearn for more.
    I am content……………..GODS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT.
    and the coming storm……….I DO NOT FEAR>…..
    I shall NOT STORE UP nor worry about what is coming…..
    when the time comes that I lose all……….
    and HE SAID, and CANNOT LIE
    that GOD already knows what I have need of
    and not to worry over such things……
    or better said, WHEN THE DAY COMES
    that I am on the run, and have lost all things of this world
    HE WILL ME TOO…………….and thus I sleep as a babe
    FOR CAN no man nor circumstance
    take from me what I LOVE
    what ever else comes, hard times
    in prisons, even in my death, if that is HIS WILL,
    I see only………….that I will be just a man
    that GOD is working on , to perfect me through tribulations
    and GROW MY FAITH.
    NO FEAR OF MAN, no fear of loss…….

  112. IF any wants the peace of mind I have
    and pick up your bibles and read ONLY IT……
    JESUS WORDS are to be LOVED and LIVED
    and TRUSTED.
    it matters not……………..if a man has done many well and good things, IF that man has left OFF his first LOVE
    his candle is put OUT.
    the candle of the wicked shall be put out.
    MY GOD desires that none perish
    but that they come to REPENTANCE.
    Godly sorrow works to repentance …….
    the GOODNESS of GOD leads one to repentance.
    repentance is not being sorry for your evil and then continuing
    on in it……THE RICH MAN DID THAT………..
    Repentance means to turn from…………………..
    to cease from evil……………
    to Learn to do well. GRACE is what teaches us this.
    For the grace of GOD which bringeth salvation
    has appeared unto all men,
    TEACHING us to deny all ungodliness and wordly lusts,
    to live soberly…….RIGHTEOUSLY, and godly.
    MY message has remained the same for years now.
    REPENT YE and believe the gospel.
    and then GO and learn to walk as DID HE.
    MY little children………………if one says he abides in HIM
    then he ought so to WALK as DID HE……….
    go and sin no more.
    And they that are CHRISTS have CRUCIFIED
    the affections and lusts of the flesh…………
    AS HE is in this world
    so are WE………….
    Stop worrying about WHAT IS coming……….
    quit thinking if ya store up you can make it through
    the coming days……
    Lean of HIM…………………………..TIS HIS EXAMPE we must follow……..
    leaving us an example THAT YOU SHOULD FOLLOW IN HIS
    we appointed unto tribulations……..
    we appointed unto persecutions,
    LET patience have her perfect work…………
    as HE SUFFERED arm your selves with the same mind
    FOR he who has suffered in the flesh
    has ceased from sin.
    yall who are preaching on storing up for what is coming
    are AFRAID………….and I do speak it to your shame.
    WHY FEAR MAN, why fear any thing……..
    TRUST IN GOD, and ye shall have HIS PEACE ABOUNDING
    in YOU through all times………..
    LEARN TO DO WELL. cease from evil.
    STOP Supporting wars……..
    I assure you all…………..that by the SPIRIT
    I do see what soon is to come.
    against US as well………
    BUT Not a bit of this moves me OFF MY COURSE
    I have no fear, nor worry over any such thing.
    I WARN ABOUT IT……………
    but I tell none to STORE UP…………….
    to get you through the coming times……..
    that GOD does not know what we will NEED
    in those days……..
    GOD cannot lie…………….what he has done for others
    and even in lackings, in persecutions
    in dearths, and even in death
    and shall be with me , even unto the END.
    and my words and ACTIONS SHOW MANY THAT PEACE.
    the peace many know NOT OF……….
    to fear absolutely no coming dread, nor storm
    which guides my heart and mind and gives me absolute
    peace of mind.
    IN THIS WORLD ye shall have tribulations
    through all this………
    the TRUTH has set me free.
    imagine………no fear of death,
    no fear of loss, no fear of the coming persecutions.
    yes a divison is occurring………….
    those who have eyes are being strenghted
    their eyes are being opened……..
    all else are only coming under fear, under
    good or bad.
    and all things that he allows to be done unto me
    that I learn to be a partaker of HIS HOLINESS…….
    no fear of mans wrath…………..
    knowing that in HIM , I have escaped GODS WRATH.
    but IF WE ARE OF HIM
    now GO AND SIN MORE>

  113. and on that NOTE
    which should one truly fear……….
    the wrath of man…………and men……….
    and knowing the terror of the LORD
    we must thus warn men to repent……….and come to the
    ONLY way out of GODS WRATH.
    IN OUR LORD…….
    the justifier of all who call upon HIS NAME.
    and there is no pardon of sin in any other name……….
    WE should be focusing on the LOVE OF TRUTH
    of RIGHTEOUSNESS and GODLINESS in this present evil world.
    and warning others to COME TO CHRIST
    and learn to do the same.
    the light of the WORLD…………
    the LIGHT of the WORLD…………
    only let not that light be hid under a bushel
    but let it be SET ON A HILL………….FOR ALL TO SEE………..
    put the fear in some
    hating even the garment spotted by the flesh,
    others with compassion……….
    ALL WHO COME TO CHRIST in spirit and in truth
    they will learn to walk righteously,
    and they will learn to be godly and shine as lights in this world.
    all else will fall short.
    known unto GOD are those who are HIS……………
    and thus let all who name the name OF CHRIST
    depart from INIQUITY………….
    yes………………words from those who truly KNEW HIM
    in SPIRIT and in TRUTH…….
    words that should NEVER have been replaced with
    lukewarm teachings of our best life now dung…….
    and YET I have far more a greater life even now in this world
    than do many, for they fear, they worry, they always lack
    and need more.
    all their money and worldly wealth will never give them
    the peace of mind this little man has………..
    my hope is not in their corruptible riches
    nor do I desire to have more of anything this world has to offer.
    WISDOM , KNOWELDGE, TRUTH, Charity…………..and all things
    which pertain unto godliness……….
    money comes and money goes………..
    when it comes…………….ITS ONLY MEANT TO BE GIVEN UNTO
    any who truly lacks ………..
    not stored up………BUT SIMPLY TO BE GIVEN AWAY………
    and if I lose my job, house, car,
    if I gain only harships, trials, afflictions
    and I take it patiently……….I WILL HAVE ONLY GAINED……..
    and your mind shall be FREE of all worry
    and abounding in great peace
    even in the darkest of times………..MY JOY
    in HIM to suffer for his name sake
    will only INCREASE MY HOPE
    men stay in SIN…………..CAUSE THEY LOVE SIN.
    period and point blank.
    and Jesus is not the minisitir of sin.
    all who LOVE TRUTH, come to HIM……………….that their deeds
    may be manfiest that they are wrought in the LIGHT……….
    I TRULY was one of the worst,
    and deserving of hellfire…..
    but then one day GRACE APPEARED……..
    and I became and have become and am becoming
    perfected in HIS LIGHT.
    if his SPIRIT Were to leave me,
    I would be as I was………..
    in this flesh……
    the KEY……………LEARN TO OBEY HIM.
    GOD is not mocked
    if a man sows to the flesh………….then he shall die………
    teaching us to do well and to cease from evil…..
    so its a daily choice………
    and by all means if you see a brother or sister
    in a sin…………..PULL THEM OUT ASAP
    and know you have saved a soul from death.

  114. paul austin Mar 23rd 2015

    Mr Lawrence Rayburn
    You seem so transfixed on the tribes of Manasseh & Ephraimin in that you seem to overlook the fact they are not mentioned in the book of revelations
    Correct me if I am wrong but were there 12 tribes of Israel or 14.
    Perhaps you are of the opinion that the native American Indians are of the tribe of Manasseh the Mormons hold this belief am I to understand this is your summation
    If this is the case Oh dear oh me I think the book of Mormon has deceived your thinking

  115. Ronnie Naidoo Mar 23rd 2015


    Just over 10 years ago, while pastoring a church in a small town, I was asked by a big Company if I could help their workers who were having financial problems. Mid-month the workers would come in for loans to see them through the rest of the month. I prepared a full Financial Management Course including Budgeting, Debt and How to get out of debt. I then presented the course (workshop) to the Company workers over 5 weeks and a further workshop over 4 weeks was done for another Company.

    At the beginning of 2014, I felt God remind and challenge me about the course I did for Commerce and industry years before. I felt God say, “You did the Financial Management Course for Companies, can you not do it for My Church”. I was quite taken aback. I spent the next two months, using the same course and modified it to give it a Biblical basis. I then took the course to Churches here in South Africa.

    I moved from Durban where I am based to another part of South Africa to try and help another community equally facing a major crisis in terms of financial challenges. Many families and individuals are in serious debt. They need to learn and get out of debt as soon as possible.

    I believe that the Church Leaders need to help and equip Churches on Financial Management. This can be an excellent tool to reach the community of unbelievers too.

    I concur with the article in question.
    We need to turn to Jesus, He is Jehovah Jireh and the only One who can help set people free from the bondage of financial debt.
    Let’s help the Church please!

    Ronnie Naidoo (Pastor)

  116. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 23rd 2015

    Paul Austin……

    I’m not a Mormon, though I have people in my extended family who are, and I’ve read the book of Mormon. But, I decided it is a counterfeit of satan, sent to delude as many as possible and turn them off the narrow path. Only the KJV in ENGLISH of the bible was sanctioned by its AUTHOR, the Lord Jesus the Christ…..having it printed in English which He knew would be the language of choice worldwide for the Last Days to reach the most people.

    Quit trying to analyze me and LISTEN to what I’m saying. You all may not believe the US/UK are Manasseh/Ephraim in the Last Days and collectively
    called Jacob by God in His written word….that’s your
    prerogative…..but, it explains why the prophecies found in the Old Testament for this time are being fulfilled the way they are.

    And, regarding my contention that we will destroy all of Islam with nuclear weapons….then be destroyed by nuclear weapons at the end of the Time of Jacob’s Trouble as we square off with Russia……consider the
    ‘unregistered’ nuclear weapons that were moved from Dyess Air Force Base, Abilene, Texas several months ago to classified destinations overseas……it made all
    the papers and some of the mainstream video news sources. Those nuclear weapons were developed
    during the end of the Carter administration and finished production during the Reagan administration. They were mothballed at the end of the Reagan administration by his successor, George Bush senior, at Dyess AFB. They are NEUTRON bomb weapons.
    That’s WHY they were not registered. They have been saved until now to fulfill the prophecy that Jacob will come to the aid of Israel when she is attacked from all sides by Islam’s armies backed by Russia. But, our
    government weapons people do not know they have been motivated to prepare these weapons to fulfill prophecy.

    THAT’s how we will destroy all of Islam….because neutron weapons don’t destroy buildings or machines….they only destroy living things….humans…
    Islamic minions of satan attacking Israel.

    You people can argue until the cows come home whether I am indeed a Christian by your standards, but I don’t answer to you. I KNOW the ONE true God, the Lord Jesus the Christ…..and I have that one on ONE personal relationship with Him. Him only do I serve and He alone I listen to for teaching His prophetic word.

    I only want to make straight the paths of the Lord, that as many as are called by His Holy Spirit will have their eyes opened to the events coming to pass all around them, consider their position in prophecy, and actively move to form that one on ONE personal relationship with Him…..to be saved indeed by the blood He shed to reconcile them unto Himself.

    All praise, honor, glory, and worship is due Him alone…..the Lord Jesus the Christ.


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  117. His Truth is marching on Mar 23rd 2015

    Mal. 3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

    Mal. 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap:

    Mal. 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.

    Mal. 3:4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.

    Bless you randall lowrey, after reading all that you wrote I went off to examine myself and seek the Lord and as soon as I opened my bible, it opened right to Malachi and my eyes lit on the above passage of scripture…….so amen brother, scrub us down good! It doesn’t feel good, it makes me mourn, but I don’t want to be of those who say further along in Malachi, what do we gain by going about mourning before the Lord….and I can take strength in knowing that this is the very reason why Jesus said, blessed are you who mourn now, for you will be comforted.

    Sad truth is that we have looked to the world for how to live and trying to blend in with it instead of looking to Jesus and His example, bearing the reproach and shame of being different from the world and set apart from it. We have somehow lost the truth that His kingdom is not of this world, that we are not of this world, and that this world is appointed unto wrath and destruction, the earth is wearing out like a garment, and even if that should tarry, for each and every soul we so very quickly return to dust and fly off to meet our Maker in any case………….so clearly what matters is not this life and things of it, but eternal life……..But because of losing that truth and focus we have left off trying to rescue this world full of perishing souls, we have left our first love of Christ and Him crucified, the very gospel, and the thankfulness that goes with knowing only a remnant will be saved, and understanding the debt that we owe Him for saving us………….

  118. His Truth is marching on Mar 23rd 2015

    …..I have been asking the Lord what does it mean in Malachi that we have left off our tithes and offerings…….this is not talking about money as such i don’t believe, but is what we “owe” Him for saving us, is to spend what we can of our time and effort and our resources to be witnesses of His gospel…………………the gospel is the meat of His storehouse to be distributed to the “poor”, those who have need of it……we have left off the saving of souls, sidelined by so many other things, pet doctrines and the like, or Israel or end time events etc, and I pray that He will visit us all with a spirit of repentance and renew us to the gospel again………..because I do believe instead of crystal ball gazing, this is what Jesus meant when He said we are to occupy until He comes….occupy with the gospel in other words, not with worrying too much about all the details of where the world is heading, because we already know the bottom line of where the world is heading………and that is reason enough to occupy and let our focus be on saving as many as possible, amen, and may the name of the Lord be blessed.

  119. When we give our money unto the LORD
    do we think GOD needs our money.
    SO why would he ask that we give…………
    ITS so the poor wont lack.
    He wants to see the poor both fed with the gospel
    and with natural food as well if they lack.
    WE should not worry about money one bit.
    we just work so we don’t lack and can give to others.
    we don’t desire more money………
    we don’t worry if we lose it all.
    if we have we freely give it unto those who lack.
    we don’t build our empires nor broaden our borders……
    we build in the temple……………..PREACH THE GOSPLE
    add stone upon stone.
    and we feed the poor , we work as one
    all we possess, is only for the sakes of others
    those who have more , give more
    and those who lack , wont lack, the others support them.
    the early church LOVED ITS OWN
    and thus stored not up, but had all things common.
    and all were fed, and what a beautiful thing.
    BECAUSE they hope was above , not on things of this world,
    they knew in heart it was all
    about where ONE would SPEND ETERNITY, not vacation……..
    so they stored not up……….THEY GAVE
    and what joy they had ………
    for it is more blessed to Give than to receive.
    IMAGINE having so much hope
    you just don’t care about anything
    but helping out the others………………….
    because you heart is so joyful in where you will
    spend enternity
    and you just want the same for others………
    so quick.
    and IT is truth.
    AND its why the early church turned the world upside down
    THEY KNEW the terror of the LORD
    they knew HIS WRATH Was real
    just as HIS LOVE and desire for none to perish is real
    todays men……………preach not the gospel
    they preach MY KINGDOM BE BUILT
    my kingdom come.
    I do look at the signs of the times
    I see them clearly………..
    and I am warning us all
    the end does draw nigh and it will come upon
    many as a THEIF in the night.
    but we must be found as children of the DAY on HIS DAY……
    also I see persecutions coming
    and judgments coming.
    because GOD is the same , yesterday, today and forever.
    and when iniquity reaches the full
    JUDGMENTS always come
    some with pestililence, some with world wide shortages,
    and some by men……..to destroy .
    and soon a weapon shall be formed
    an evil man and evil kings will reign
    and do much damage as well.
    we at the end , and I see time as only
    getting shorter.
    OUR FOCUS must be to win souls
    to take care of our own
    to love even our enemies and forgive all who harm us.
    never accept their evil ways……….

  120. paul austin Mar 24th 2015

    Lawrence Rayburn
    Hey mate can we all come & live with you in Texas, It seems everything is BIG in Texas.

  121. paul austin Mar 24th 2015

    Hi Andrew
    I would like to get back on track Re The Storm Warning. Derivatives on the world scale stand at 710 Trillion US$
    Lets take 1Trillion US$ & put it into perspective. If you take a football field & stack US$1OO bills on pallets 1 metre high completely covering the field, Then stack the same again on top of the initial sack you would have a Trillion dollars……. Now put 709 US$ TRILLION on top of that There are 7 billion people on this planet When this derivative bubble bursts who will suffer.
    The USA is in debt 18+ Trillion apply the math as stated above. Now this is Govt debt, lets proceed to personal debt & the mind just boggles here
    Unpaid student loan debt is enough to bring the US into a precarious position.
    If we were to throw in terrorist &/or natural disasters such as EMP events the stakes go higher.
    Those of us 65yrs + will have heard their parents speak of the Great Depression & heeded their warnings should such an event happen again
    Google the world debt clock it will scare the living daylights out of the unprepared.
    Now let us get down to the nitty gritty of our survival strategy. Currency is the fiat paper you have on your person ,Fiat currencies collapse about every 50 years, we are long over due Money is gold , silver & your labour, barter will become a big issue A food storage & supply is important. Look in your larder toothbrush, toothpaste hygiene supplies, medical kits. Security, Yes security
    Ex 22:2 if a thief be found breaking up be smitten there be no blood shed for him that he die.
    Back in the depression basically people looked after each other, there was a certain sharing in their misery. This will not be the case with the next crisis. The more you can put away is the more you can help others, within reason
    The Lord God created Israel to be a nation, sharing in a nation is imperative to survival & well being & also defence.
    It is time Christians got together in harmony & started sorting out true direction. We are sojourners on earth, & the god of this world is Satan
    In war the Christian gets shot as to does the atheist. Start putting away in the times of feast because you are going to need it in the time of famine

  122. paul austin Mar 24th 2015

    I would like to continue with the way the financial system works against us. Should the banking system get into another financial crisis there will not be another bail out. The money you have in the banks now is structured as an unsecured loan, should there be another financial crisis the banks will take your money, this is called a bail in.
    This happened in Cyprus. The lower financial classes of the US were decimated in the last debacle Now they are going after the middle class of society, a broke & hungry society is very easy to control.
    One has only to look at the way the populace was treated after Hurricane Katrina to see how they were herded worse than cattle into confined spaces,with no security, no food, no water, no sanitation nor medical assistance with rape, murder & abuse abounding.
    The Fema camps that are springing up over the US are razor wired to keep people interred they are not a place of safety & security for those in need, accumulate your own provisions
    I don’t agree with the mark of the beast scenario but I do agree that if we become a cashless society & swipe cards are the method of payment & purchase you will be at the mercy of the powers that be, a simple computer input will have you destitute & broke.if you do not comply with the system
    BUT there will always be a black market, or shadow financial system. I saw a charity handing out pizzas to the poor & one gentleman swapped his pizza for a cigarette, the person with the cigarette had children to feed, the other guy wanted a smoke
    I like many others see the necessity to insure our house & contents our car, caravan, boat plus medical insurance etc. But I also see the necessity to insure my wife & families wellbeing should a financial catastrophe arise Amongst other things toilet paper will be a luxury, you can’t have to much & you are going to use it anyhow, soap, Rice baked beans spam tinned fruit etc etc all with a lifespan of 5 yrs, it wont go to wast, vitamins. Visit the opp shops get warm clothing. shoes, not only for the kids now, they grow & will need larger sizes as time goes by
    A garden, a worm farm, you can eat them you know, mealey grubs are edible, Guinia pigs, chickens rabbits
    I hear on many occasions Oh just trust the Lord …..I do He has given me a brain to think with & wisdom to trust my instinct.
    The ceiling space is a good place to put toilet paper, soap detergents, & the like,don’t put food up there it is to hot…..& please be careful who you let know.

  123. His Truth is marching on Mar 24th 2015

    It’s much more likely we will need to be mobile and very limited in what we would be able to bring with us. Our focus should be on the gospel and being prepared in the gospel, having our feet shod with it and even all the more if we think disaster is coming, we shouldn’t let storing up be our life’s work, just a few quick years and poof we vanish like a vapour.

    Most of God’s people are not in a position to store up, and He is well able to care for His own……..we can be strengthened and comforted in reminding ourselves that He has gone before us and knows every detail of every difficulty we will be facing in the future and has already provided the solution to every problem and able to direct our steps accordingly whether we are conscious of it or not, of all who are following Him.

    Our own mind is enmity with God and we can never serve two masters……..we need to let go of one in order to embrace the other. If anyone has fears or concerns about what is coming, then their first thought should be to seek and wait upon the Lord their God about it. Let him/her cast that burden upon the Lord and pray about it until His peace comes. If God wants anyone to do anything ahead of time He is well able to instruct His people and whether He has an instruction or not He will comfort and strengthen us in Him, in faith, and in this way we will be prepared in Him. What we really need to store up above all is faith and trust in Him, to meet the coming trials, that our faith will not fail, amen.

  124. Walter Mar 24th 2015


  125. His Truth is marching on Mar 24th 2015

    I’m preaching to myself and reminding myself of these things as well…….we need to remind and encourage ourselves and each other, all the more as we see that day approaching. Right now I’m reminded of Luke 21 where Jesus already did leave us an instruction, praise the Lord…….

    Luke 21:26 Men’s hearts failing them for FEAR, and FOR LOOKING AFTER those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

    Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then LOOK UP and LIFT UP YOUR HEADS; for your redemption draweth nigh.

    Here is confirmation that it is better we don’t look after those things which are coming, instead we need to be looking up and be encouraged that it is a sign and confirmation that our redemption is on the way, hallelujah! Thank you Lord and praise your holy and mighty name!.

  126. Ejimanze Mar 24th 2015

    Old Jacob taught me a lesson I don’t forget. U want to produce strong specled and spotted cattle? Get the desired cattle focus on the pattern when they eat, drink and mate.

    So I set my face like flint on what I desire, my expectations. I am looking for the blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of our blessed God and Saviour Jesus Christ. I keep before me the expectation that this mortality must put on immortality and this corruptible must put on incorruption. Having borne the image of old Adam, with my eyes ailing and my back aching, I tremble with excitement that my Lord Jesus is coming to change my vile body like unto His glorious body.
    I realise that as the Most High makes His move to come fix me good and glorious, a lot of old stuff is gotta be shoved about some. That don’t bug me one bit. In this day and age, a man is gonna be made more precious than the golden wedge of Ophir. So I expect some intense fireworks as part of the process. And as the Lord God Most High moves to make the kingdoms of this world the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, I expect shake ups and scrapping of old Adam systems for new Christ kingdom systems.
    Therefore having a Spirit intel on where matters are headed, I stand strong, immovable, always abounding and trusting in the grace and lovingkindness of our gracious Lord Jesus to bring me to the desired haven. Our God is God of the cities, He is God of the countryside; Where shall I go from Your presence, David asked? Ps. 139. He is God of heaven and earth.

    No shaking, we are Overcomers through Him that loved us and washed us clean in His precious Blood.

  127. His Truth is marching on Mar 24th 2015

    Praise the Lord Ejimanze…….bless you for that encouragement, amen!

  128. Blessed be the name of the LORD……….
    Mens hearts will be failing them ,
    when a man loves the Lord and His every word
    learning to trust only IN HIM……
    Then that one will have no fear nor worry
    about anything which is nigh to come upon him.
    that at lifes end…………….the PROMISE awaits
    for all who endured faithful till the end.
    a man who loves the LORD
    knows this world is not his HOME
    and CHRIST has become his wisdom.
    A wise man………..now the KEY WORD is
    a wise man looketh into the future
    and prepares himself.
    YET a WISE man knows
    that tomorrow is not guaranteed,
    he is not like the rich man which said
    soul ye have many years left,
    NO, a WISE man knows that he knows NOT
    his last day nor hour
    that indeed today could be his last day upon earth.
    prepares himself……
    A wise man knows one thing.
    and ONE THING he knows very well……….
    that no man knows his final hour upon earth……..
    no one knows when they shall die……….
    BUT a wise man also knows ONE THING
    which is certain and sure…………
    A wise man knows…………THAT THE FUTURE
    A WISE MAN KNOWS that whether he
    die in Christ, or still be living on THAT DAY
    THAT whether he is awake or asleep
    SO a wise man does indeed look to the FUTURE
    of the ONLY day that is GAURANTEED TO ONE
    day COME
    STORING his riches ABOVE,
    what he has over, he gives unto those who lack
    a wise man desires to only be rich towards GOD
    and to be walking as he would want to be found
    ON THAT DAY……………
    so he obeys HIS LORD
    he worries not about tomorrow
    for he knows his life in this world is but a vapour,
    but that on the day of the LORD
    whether he already has gone to sleep,
    or is still awake…………….JESUS will come
    the dead in CHRIST shall rise, and we who are
    still awake…………….shall be changed.
    SO YOU SEE…………….the key
    is WHO IS A WISE MAN…………..and thus
    to be found in HIM on that day……….
    and thus he don’t store up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,HE GIVES
    he don’t worry about a tomorrow which may not come for him………
    he may die tonight, BUT HE DOES KNOW
    that whether he died or is still awake
    and again he prepares himself for the DAY OF THE LORD
    for what do we know………..I could die in my sleep tonight,
    but if I do……………..was I prepared FOR HIS DAY…….
    and have HIS PEACE
    and focus on HIS SAYINGS
    it appears a couple here already know and understand
    what I speak of…….
    but aint it GOOD to always encourage one another
    about this HOPE.
    amen and amen.

  129. No matter what ideals men conceive and try and spread unto me
    HIS TRUTH is my guide……….
    and they keep them.
    no threat of what is coming will cause them fear nor worry,
    worry not about the morrow………………sufficient unto the day
    is the evil thereof………
    there once was a man who thought himself
    wise, he saw the evil day approaching
    he said to himself, self, you will only make it through
    the coming evil, if you have stored up
    and have plenty,
    so he left off his LORDS sayings
    and began to build and to store up and prepare himself
    unto the evil days ahead.
    and he did indeed build and he did indeed store up
    and had attained much , to get him through the tough
    days ahead,
    and as the days grew very close ………
    HE DIED……………
    now, who has all that he stored up……….
    the man trusted in himself…………….and thought
    his riches could get him through the tough times…..
    he would have and could have fed that man too……..
    he thus should not have stored up
    and have given the extra instead
    unto the poor who do lack…..
    cause what comes next……….
    and that man is going to have to expain
    why he let the poor go hungry
    and WHY he trusted in his own mind
    and his own riches to get him through the tough times.
    but I have NO FEAR
    and watch……………I store not up
    IF LORD WILLING I am still here
    I PROMISE that even though I may not have a dime
    and if you wont believe me
    so I have no fear nor worry…….

  130. YES his truth has me
    no matter how beaten the carries of HIS TRUTH
    are in this world,
    no matter how persecuted, now matter how many
    they kill of us who love the LORD
    still at the end of it all,
    they will not be able to ever eradicate
    every single believer BEFORE CHRIST RETURNS.
    yes in time, many will be betrayed
    many rounded up,
    many killed………….BUT NOT ALL WILL
    some will still be here WHEN OUR LORD
    comes to destroy the worlds dark lord…….
    and that is TRUTH.

  131. For an evil thought has entered men of high places……
    come to , they say, we have the means
    and the masses sway our way………
    come to and let us come against all who dwell quiet in the land
    and wont conform………..
    BUT the snare they set for us
    will take hold upon them at the end
    FOR they thought to inherit the earth
    and eradicate us……..
    but they have forgotten
    ponder that
    and have no fear of man.
    nor of loss,
    fear only HE who has power to destroy both body and soul
    in hellfire.
    this life is but a vapour……………but eternal
    now who can measure that………………..

  132. so the sum of the entire matter
    and wait for HIM…………
    forgive all who persecute you,
    pray only their forgiveness,
    know and understand times are about to get
    harsh for us who wont conform to this world….and its peace
    and unity……….which at the end of their peace and unity
    will have killed millions if not billions…………
    and have NO FEAR , only peace………..
    and do so from a pure heart,
    doing all unto others as did OUR LORD………
    HIS SAYINGS ARE CENTRAL and must be obeyed
    and how EASY THIS IS when a man LOVES TRUTH.
    GRACE……………..what a GIFT………..
    ponder that and be thankful………..

  133. His Truth is marching on Mar 24th 2015

    Amen randall……….and those are wise words. I have been realizing lately that preparing ourselves for His coming is the exact same preparation of our hearts for death and disaster as well…..being also the very same as how we ought to live at all times, for the reasons you are saying brother, that none of us knows the day nor the hour for any of these things…but only that it is surely coming! Praise the Lord and yes get our house in order and settle our debts with man and also where we have been robbing God in what we owe Him for so great a salvation, amen.

  134. On February 1, 2015, it was revealed in a dream that a Tsunami (Tidal Wave) of our own unrighteous judgment and unrepented sins, are returning upon the church, as a result of God’s righteous judgment, and is here even today. As in every Tsunami there is more than one great wave of destruction, and the flow of God’s judgment will not cease until the whole world is consumed in its own destructive sins. Who among you has eyes to see and understand? Surely you can see the warning signs that reveal the times of this great trouble that we have brought upon ourselves. (See 1st Peter 4:17-19.)

    You can review the whole matter on http://www.excellent-valley.org by clicking on prophecy for today February 1, 2015

  135. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 25th 2015

    Heh, heh, heh! Andrew…….more activity/comments
    on this Storm Coming article than any I’ve seen on the entire website! Aren’t you proud? It’s got Christians
    thinking and looking at themselves….which is a good thing. Congratulations.


    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  136. David Marsh Mar 25th 2015

    Re – Vicki – who requested a pdf copy of ‘Counterfeit Christianity’ by Richard Ing. Could you provide me with a new email address. The one u provided keeps failing.

    Thanks heaps.

    David Marsh
    [email protected]

  137. Paul Austin Mar 25th 2015

    In looking to myself & my own failings over my 65yrs, I have seen many things that have been out of my control due to illness & circumstance, In this time I have been able to look at myself as a human being & know what it is like to go without sleep to be in pain, exhausted, gasping for breath,, thirsty, cold & hungry & alone with my thoughts to the point were I would die.. I have been with my wife giving birth & sat with my daughter all night with whooping cough, & many other challenges that life brings. This is life this is wishing we were somewhere else at the time, but this is never the case
    These experiences & worse have also been experienced by many amongst us, I have no doubt of that Failure to think, concentrate & delirium set in. Fear & panic can become a constant companion. Those who have been there know this experience & it will happen again
    We all have a specific gland which is the fight or flight gland. It makes the brain shut down & go into survival mode. We are no longer in a thought process but are in the survival situation, the thought process of the brain has shut down & we are in pure reflex,,& primal mode.
    The military, doctors ,nurses paramedics, firemen, stewardesses, & all in responsible positions go through emergency procedures & practice over & over & over again & it is called a mind & body memory & is automatically done without thinking when the circumstances present themselves, they can circumvent this process, but it takes years & years of application to train the body & mind
    My point in bringing this to you is to remind you is that no end of “happy clapping” is going to help you & yours, Your walk in the Lord is never complete, You must provide for your own, especially your own family, How you do this is up to you, when confronted with the emergencies we envisage W e live by faith hope & love…..To me this is a call to toughen up, don’ t sit on your backsides & expect everything to be done for you

  138. Hi9 Paul please have a listen to this interview.
    i Norman talks about Cheryl who in one year of neuro-plastic training, experienced her brain completely rewire a new vertigo section which had been destroyed after an operation and drug treatment. “The Brain that changes itself” or by Norman Doige is a good read for those interested.

    We see the born again Spirit filled experience accompanied in most cases by instant withdrawal from many ways of thinking – things like bad language, drug/tobacco/alcohol addiction, anger, self doubt, etc etc. Scripture tells us to put on the mind of Christ to “bring every thought into captivity” ……for “as a man thinks in his heart so he is.”
    “a new heart (mind) will i give you”

    These neuro-plasitc scientists tell us that the way we think and act in life is able to turn genes our very genes on and of on and off:The Lord God put it simply when He inspire the psalmist to write “for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.”
    Pr Michael

  139. His Truth is marching on Mar 25th 2015

    Pray that our flight will not be in winter then, dear brother Paul Austin….

    It was Jesus who told us about hearts failing them for fear because of looking after the things that are coming, but that we should be looking up to the Lord and minding heavenly things instead of earthly, even our redemption. The only reason we know things are coming is to give us time to be prepared in our hearts, spiritually, anchored to the Rock, trusting in God…so that our faith will not fail when fears come.

    Difficult experiences and heartbreaks of our lives are for the purpose of crucifying (killing) our carnal/flesh nature……….as we carry our crosses through life more of our fight and flight nature dies and the more we stop fighting and surrender ourselves to the will of God……..and that is the very thing that enables us to receive of His will and direction, protection, provision, etc. When the going gets tough our default position should be dependance on God, inquiring of Him, looking to Him, praying for help and guidance and strength….and HIS will……..our default position as believers should not be depending on our own mind which has a will that is often contrary to the will of God…because the carnal mind is enmity with God. And just being practical our carnal mind doesn’t know where the next missile strike will hit nor where a wolf-pack of looters is lying in wait, or what day government militia are going to come knocking on our door while rounding up the fundamentalist Christians, etc….but God knows all these things and can direct us concerning them, according to His will and purposes.

    Jesus learned obedience by the things which He suffered……and so do we. Do not be surprised at the painful trial Peter wrote…..but rejoice that we participate in the sufferings of Christ so that we may be overjoyed when His glory is revealed…..that means our redemption and keeping our eyes fixed and looking on that. Count all things as loss already to gain Christ, count ourselves dead already…….there ya go, praise the Lord and that’s when we will know we are ready, bless His Mighty Name.

    I tremble when I say these things, because I don’t know if I am ready yet or not, or will be ready on time, none of us will really know until we are tested and the testings themselves will help us to grow further………but one thing I do know is that these things are truth, the words of Jesus and the apostle is truth, we cannot deny them.

  140. Paul Austin Mar 25th 2015

    If I may take you back up to the 22nd /15 where my reference deals with the last days, the day of the Lord& the great & terrible day of the Lord. The Lord has plainly stated that it would be the currant generation that experienced this prophetic message. In the book of Mathew the contents dealt entirely with the Jewish nation of the time of Jesus’ presence, read the parables, without a parable spoke He not
    The enemies of Jesus were the Idumean Jews, Edomites. Herod & his progeny were Edomites they were also Roman citizens.
    To understand the prophesy of the end time we have to go to Daniel were we see time scales eg, a time times & a half, 1260 days or 3& a half years, W e also see1290 days & blessed is he that cometh to the 1335 days
    These time scales were very apparent to the astute follower of prophesy BUT it was against the law of Herod,the pharasies & sadducees to preach this truth to the populace
    The entry point of course is when Daniel stated Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away & the abomination maketh desolate threre shall be 1290 days.
    On the 66 TISHRI 22 Cestius arrives at Galbao & the Jews go out & attack ,on the Sabbath, in fact the solemn assembly(ie The Sabbath of the festival of the booths) Succoth.
    66 Tishri 23,24,25 Cestius tarries at Gabao for 3 days while the Jews seize the elevated points around
    66 Tishri 26 Cestius attacks the Jews & moves his camp to Scopus “Watchtower”
    66 Tishri 27,28,29 Cestius makes no assault for 3 days, he collects corn from nearby villages
    66 Tishri 30 Cestius enters Jerusalem (City of David)
    66 Heshvan 5 Cestius breaks throu the temple wall with a Roman tortoise, he enters the temple then retreats to Scopus “Watchtower” without any reason in the world.
    I am sure you have all heard of this phenomenon in your studies But the fact remains the daily sacrifice was taken away on Succoth & the abomination that maketh desolate had encroached on the temple
    66 Heshvan 6 Cestius retreats to Gabao
    66 Heshvan 8 Cestius retreats to Bethoron & gets taken apart by the Jews
    66 Heshvan 9 Cestius escapes to Antipatris losing 400 men of the rear guard. Of course this is not the end of the story, in fact we have just begun we have to address Titus, Armageddon we can look at Josephus & The war of the Jews.
    But first lets see the response. Have you noticed the calendar nearness to 70ad

  141. Thank you His Truth is marching on! I believe what Jesus spoke of when He prayed the Father in John 17 for all of us is so contained in your heart and word. I am one with our Lord and one with you as I read. What Jesus prayed was most important to Him for all of us, His words should be of high priority in our lives also.
    All of John 17 for context, but vs. 20-23

    “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me.”

    Jesus tells us he only came to do the will of the Father: “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of Him who sent me.” John 5:49

    1 John is an account of some of John’s last words to us were encouraging us to love one another. More important than so many of the things the modern church is focused on. 1 John 3:11 “For this is the message that you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.”

    If we went about doing that, so many things would seem so very tiny in comparison!

  142. Good word randall, I agree. And Ejimanze, very humble word that encouraging me. Thank you

  143. Paul Austin Mar 25th 2015

    Hi TTIMO
    The recipients of the flight being in the winter referred to the Jews in the Northern Hemisphere who experience very harsh winters. I walk around here in Australia in a Tshirt & thongs in winter.
    Jesus said woe unto the women that give suck,in those days this was because it is documented that in the madness of starvation children were eaten in the siege of Jerusalem.
    When the Romans caught someone trying to escape Jerusalem they were cut open to find any money or jewellery that may be secreted & then they were catapulted back over the wall.
    All effluent was gathered also & flung back into the city.
    There was starvation in Jerusalem gold & silver would buy you nought. Not only did they have the Romans to contend with they also had gangs under Simon & John READ THE WAR OF THE JEWS.
    Those who were aware of the abomination of desolation headed for the hills long before the Romans under Titus surrounded Jerusalem.
    The warning that Jesus Christ would come as a thief in the night was true in the fact that this occurrence would not be one of stealth but one of great noise & presence.
    Please read again the reference as to whom the last generation refers to …..Its got nothing to do with you it is the cowards assumption that they will not suffer death but instead be scooped up in the sky. It is given unto all men to die & then the judgement get used to it.

  144. Let he who is wise in this world become a fool
    to its wisdom, that he may be wise.
    for the wisdom of this world is foolishness with GOD.
    Let not man deceive you with vain words.
    let no man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit.
    nor science falsely so called.
    I marvel that often so many men appear wise
    and their wisdom and faith is based in science
    and medicine and modern carnal thought.
    Who shall endure, who shall hear the words
    well done faithful servant.
    will it be the ones who strive over what jesus said
    OR THE ONES who simply OBEYED from the heart
    what he said……..
    will it be the ones who trusted in science and medicine
    and spoke of flight or fight
    or will it be the ones who just lived by what JESUS said….
    will he approve those who took their notes
    from the men of this world
    and used their ideals to support their own carnal notions
    or will the ones who simply
    lived by what JESUS said and took not
    their wisdom from MEN of this world
    WE shall all be judged.
    AND I KNOW and am fully persuaded
    that since I heed not mens wisdom
    but ONLY the wisdom which comes from GOD
    and not unbelievers in high places,
    I am fully persuaded that since by grace
    I have become a fool to this worlds wisdom,
    and have decided to test anything said
    against the words of CHRIST………
    I am persuaded that I am on the side of TRUTH
    and truly in CHRIST………
    ponder that a bit.
    some of us use examples of mens wisdom
    to justify why we do as we do.
    and some of us……..JUST LIVE BY THE WORDS OF CHRIST.
    my advice…………LIVE BY ONLY THE WORDS of CHRIST>

  145. it takes years of practice………..
    the flesh is the flesh…………………….but why am I going to learn
    from men of this world……..HOW TO SURVIVE………..
    they MEN OF THIS WORLD…………ponder that paul, ponder
    who it is you really TRUST IN…..
    I mean you no ill will.
    but without any doubt………..you are a very, very wordly minded
    and the first love is long gone from you.
    so what kind of man would I be not to try and warn you.
    for me its easy……..
    WHO is wiser……………..men or GOD……………
    SO when JESUS said Not to worry, nor give these things
    any thought………………
    and some men teach things about what modern medicine says….
    WHO do you think I will heed.
    MEN or GOD.
    all men are capable of lieing or falling short on their promises……..
    BUT CAN GOD LIE…………………..NO paul, he cannot.
    all men can fall short ……….
    so……………….Men will trust whom they choose……….
    since NO man has seen CHRIST…….
    hey paul ponder this one just a bit.
    SINCE none of us has ever seen Christ,
    he is invisible………
    the ones in that bible……..
    the BIBLE is superior to all books
    in fact no book can compare.
    its wisdom far exceeds the wisdom of vain men…….
    FOR In its pages contains the WORDS
    of ONE far greater than man………..
    my advice………………ponder and pray
    and ask for a renewed heart, and just read that bible.
    beautiful wonderful words of strength…………..
    truth, knowledge, wisdom……….
    without the SPIRIT of course they will never be fully
    BUT then the SPIRIT placed me ONLY IN THE BIBLE….
    so as I could learn and grow.
    the time to return to our first love is TODAY.
    much tribulations are ahead……..
    and paul this world peace and unity is all of satan…….
    and the whole world and churches are coming under it now…..
    and now we live in days which churchs and men
    honor abominational marriage………..
    NEVER conform to this world, not its evil …….
    warn them to repent……..YES
    have compassion yes, warn through fear yes…..
    forgive all who would harm us……YES
    but never conform to this evil ,evil world.
    and stay far from any who preaches
    about this world peace and unity.
    TIS DEADLY PAUL, never support its evil.

  146. Andrew is correct
    THEIR Is a whole mass of judgment coming………
    a time of utter darkness and great tribulations are
    indeed coming.
    and in those days many true christains will be killed.
    as of now we see christains killed mainly overseas,
    by isis, or etc……
    but the tribulation I speak of,
    will affect all believers world wide.
    the world is chaning faster than ever………
    and I warn so as when it gets closer and closer
    many will SEE I HAVE NO FEAR
    whatever is going to happen to us during that time
    only GOD knows…….
    some will be killed, all will be hunted,
    but some will survive to see the
    COMING OF OUR LORD…….to destroy the worlds
    dark lord and kings………
    who knows who will be alive on that day……..
    I may be here, or I may already be dead……..
    I have no fear of those coming days……….not a ounce.
    and if he allows my death…………..
    if HE allows me to live …………AMEN…..
    EITHER WAY I have the JOY OF THE LORD………
    whether I am here on earth……….I HAVE HIS JOY and HIS
    PEACE abounding and which shall abound even
    in harsh days…………peace of MIND, IN CHRIST…
    no matter what I suffer at the hands of this world……
    and if I die………………TO DEPART IS FAR BETTER>….
    for to LIVE IS CHRIST………….and the peace of knowing him
    and to die is gain…………for in death
    of this body is ONLY TO BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD…..
    so WHAT can MAN do UNTO ME…………..
    oh sure he can take my things, he can imprison me
    he can even kill me ……….
    so you see man can take NOTHING FROM ME……
    that matters TO MY HEART……….
    now let us all ponder that.

    my peace I give unto you…………..JESUS WORDS
    and no man can take that from us……
    no amount of suffering can lessen our HOPE in GOD
    no amount of threat, nothing can move ONE off
    their course in CHRIST
    if their HOPES Are all above……..
    when a mans hope is all about the REWARD
    then it matters not what he loses in this life…….
    HIS hope will only increase, his joy only increase
    HIS peace only increase…………
    Sigmund fraud would call me INSANE
    for I love what I cannot SEE
    and have no care for all the things of this world
    which can be seen………
    is what I HOPE IN……..
    and that is TRUE HOPE
    for hope that is seen is not hope
    for what a man sees………why does he yet hope for
    BUT IF WE HOPE FOR THAT which we see not……
    YEAH go ye and learn some of them words…….
    TEST where my hope is………….
    TEST WHOSE Words I support and teach others to do the same.
    test all men, test me …….
    when you go to correct me………
    and the words of the apostles…………
    NOT Mens ideals nor sciences………
    AND when you see that I only stay in THE BIBLE
    then COME and JOIN ME> amen.

  148. we NEED to become LIKE MINDED
    our HOPE must be the same
    our JOY and what we joy in must be the same
    and that must be CHRIST and the reward……
    great dearth is coming
    many will fall away in those days
    if their hearts , trusts, hopes are in the things of this world….
    I speak as I do………….so we all come back
    to the FIRST LOVE
    when all our heart mind, HOPE was above
    on HIM.
    some may not even know what I speak of………
    others will remember it and
    COME BACK……..
    THERE are great judgments and trials are on the way…….
    but tribulation is what we are appointed unto…..
    in fact it is the righteous judgment of GOD
    that we suffer for the kingdom ……
    and if ya don’t belive me
    have another good read on second thess
    chapter ONE………
    I am only ENCOURAGING us
    so as we see more clearly
    what the world has for us……………….
    and the REWARD at the END that GOD HAS FOR ALL
    who remained faithful.
    IN THIS WORLD ye shall have tribulations……
    so rest your mind,
    fear not what is coming………..
    KNOW it is coming and be ye prepared IN CHRIST
    and HIS SAYINGS……..

  149. Paul Austin
    Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”
    Are there two questions here? Separated by about 2,000 years in their fulfillment?
    i think understanding of this fact is paramount in understanding Jesu’s reply in the rest of Math 24
    So yes Paul you aptly describe the Jerusalem situation in 70 AD.
    So the question then arises from verses:
    5 to 14, 17, 29, 30 and in particular 32 and 34 tha answers Jesus gave can be confusing because some apply to 70 AD, some apply to our time some apply to both !
    the parable of the fig tree is important because Jesus cursed it ” let no fruit be found on you forever” after 70 AD the people who rejected Jesus, who claimed to be Abraham’s children who claimed they had never been in bondage (Israel had been, for 400 years in Egypt” Those whom Jesus said were children of the devil became fruitless. Then in AD 1917 (1335 by Islam calender Dan 12 12) Jerusalem was delivered in miraculous circumstances http://www.hope-of-israel.org/amazingprophecy.html
    Forty years later the British are forced to leave Palestine mainly through terrorist action buy the Irgun and Stern (Jewish para-militarists) 1848: the Jewish war of Independence. The fig tree cursed by Jesus puts forth leaves – no fruit – as we well Israeli Palestine, Jerusalem, is a burdensome stone to every nation to this very day! Zech. 12
    This generation, the one that sees the tree put forth leaves again shall see all things fulfilled: So Math 24 makes sense for both 70 AD and 1917 1948 also 20xx!
    ps this topic started about future financial crash!
    Pr Michael

  150. paul paul Mar 26th 2015

    Hi Randall
    When Titus returned to Rome after his complete & utter devastation of Jerusalem, the land & people of Israel he was offered the wreath of honour for his exploits, he refused any honour with the words to the effect “how can I receive this honour when it was their God who forsook them” Even Titus knew & understood the prophesy
    Yes I have studied Josephus, himself a Jew of noble military rank \, a historian & a spokesperson between the Jews & Romans.
    I have also studied Strabo & Diadorus & many other historians of this era together with the Bible which is a book of historical events. The Word does say study to make yourself approved & work out your own salvation with fear & trembling
    I see in your epistles you quote of yourself, you don’t quote from the Word nor do you lay claim to its testimony with 2 or more witnesses Your quotations are, I this,, me that or my whatever, these symptoms of an over inflated ego & the urge to put oneself over & above all others takes me back to the symptoms/manifestations of the Kundalini awakening where ego’s run rampant. Christianity, scripture & ones status in the Church becomes a competition, my way or the highway become a fixation
    It is my opinion you are battling the serpent Kundalini Shakti & Kali is battling with your soul.
    I would like to know how often you are the first to speak in tongues & also to interpret & likewise to prophesy in the gifts.
    do you quake like the Quakers & shake like the Shakers, do you giggle & laugh & growl for no reason dance in the spirit , get drunk in the spirit, get slain in the spirit. Doe’s extreme & volatile anger pervade your body & does the Kundalini spirit take you to those places of ecstacy were you are in the zone.
    . The Word says to study those that be of God.
    Yes sir I have analysed you I know you back the front & inside out.


  151. Andrew Mar 26th 2015


  152. Dear Andrew S. Sometimes i read comments and i wonder?
    i begin to think, “leave professing Christians alone and concentrate rather on those with no faith, unbelievers, those who have no knowledge of the anointing!” Any thoughts?
    Pr Michael

  153. paul austin Mar 26th 2015

    You wrote the book, you professed the intrusion of the Kundalini spirit that has invaded the Church. You proclaim to be the Spiritual head of this site.You will know them by their fruit surely. Should it be me who is at fault please let me know,it is your duty & it is for my edification that I be directed back to the path of righteousness as it is also the right of those of this site who is who walking the walk..
    Christianity will always have consternation, this is stated in the normal sense of the Word. But now we have entities that have crept in to take charge & deceive
    Non committal will serve no one any purpose. Let us remember the truth will cut like a two edged sword if you want fairy faith go somewhere else, it abounds in Noddy Land

  154. Lawrence Rayburn Mar 26th 2015

    Most of you have gone off the straight and narrow path
    to the Lord Jesus the Christ….you’ve followed your own
    understanding and taken off on tangents.

    I injected TRUTH into this forum and am letting the Holy Spirit have His way with all of you…..but, Lord Jesus the Christ’s Holy Spirit doesn’t answer to me…..I obey Him, for HE is God.

    I’ve had enough of listening to Babel and confusion
    here. I will not leave you with a blessing because I don’t condone confusion…..you know from the scriptures who the author of confusion is.



    ol’ Lawrence in west Texas

  155. paul austin Mar 26th 2015

    Regarding leaving professing Christians alone I would like to take you to Acts 8 : 5 – 21 A man called Simon is called into question after being baptized , As you know he wanted to purchase the abilities of the apostles & as we see he was chastised for this apostasy
    This never quelled Simons ambition after all Acts 8 9 -11 declares him as a man of sorcery who bewitched the people of Samaria giving out that himself was some great one .
    To whom they all gave heed from the least to the greatest saying: this man is the great power of God.
    11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorcery
    SImon went to Rome where due to his Satanic (Kundalini ) abilities he was made a god, Here a god was called a Petre hence we have Simon Petre as the Roman catholic religion would have us believe Simon Peter ( the apostle to the Jews)
    So here we see a bogus Christian belief springing up in Rome under the pretext of a first pope who was called Simon Peter. who was never ever in Rome. It was unscriptual that he would build on another mans foundation in this case Pauls instigation & establishment of the church in Rome.
    And so Michael & others don’t accept every ones doctrine as truth ” Test the spirits to see that they are of God” Don’t believe the quaint Hi I am a Christian come & do what I tell you to do.
    Ask the question of yourself & wait for the answer, I can assure you, you will not be deceived If Christ dwelleth within you you will have your answer forthwith.

    I have a message for you so called professing Christians go away & do your homework