Jonathan Cahn at “Non”-Presidential Prayer Breakfast

I wanted to take down this video when I first found out the truth about it, but people have begged me to leave it up. However, I do find the presentation very misleading (which is not Cahn’s fault). Though they use the ‘Presidential Seal’ in this video – we have since found out that it was NOT truly an “official” Presidential prayer breakfast as we thought. Actually more of a Christian/ GOP type event. Anyway, below is Jonathan Cahn speaking in Washington. It is sad that it had to be presented in a misleading way. Especially using the Presidential seal like that. But he certainly made his point well-

Posted in TV & Videos by Andrew on January 29th, 2013 at 10:38 am.


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  1. Robert C. Thomas Jan 29th 2013

    WOW. I just want to know if President Obama was there to hear this magnificent message.

  2. Joy Strang Jan 29th 2013

    What a powerful word that was. Lord i pray you open blind eyes and unblock deaf ears in the name of Almighty God.
    I am not American but i know it was founded on the word of God. I am a uk citizen but i stand with America and Israel.

  3. Regine Cope Jan 29th 2013

    What else can be said. Amen and Amen!

  4. Nsaba Buturo Jan 29th 2013

    Awesome, awesome! This was hard hitting and from our God. As a Ugandan, I am concerned that abominations such as homosexuality are being forced on us and with threats from the likes of President Obama. He needs that message and so do all American brothers and sisters. May our God bless Jonathan Cahn. He is a rare man of God.

  5. Mark Phillips Jan 29th 2013

    I am only an unregenerate Gentile,but hereby throw in two cents :

    The situation in the West with regard to hearing and seeing Bible TRUTH,is about as serious as it gets : I believe a typical Westerner unbeliever has NOT heard an adequately BALANCED account of the Good News ; has NOT seen the Good News CONFIRMED with SIGNS following ; and has NOT seen the Good News authentically LIVED OUT by those who call Messiah Jesus ‘Lord’ (as indeed He is). Many Westerners who call Messiah Jesus ‘Lord’ live as if He told them to keep up with the Joneses,rather than keep His commands. If Western disciples persist in spreading a seriously unbalanced and unconfirmed message (a message which even they do NOT live out),then unbelievers will persist in wallowing in filth.

    Holy Scripture is primarily an IN-HOUSE God-breathed LIBRARY for the Body. That said,and apart from Mark,Luke and Acts (and yes,Holy Scripture itself),if there is ONE book external to Holy Writ that I would like to see rain down onto Western soil,it is this one (Being fallible but close to plumb truth,this book’s medicine STINKS terribly to a worldly nose ; but its message is something that needs to waft its way around the West,come what may) :

    That said,do NOT hold your breathe for a helicopter-load to drop down on your street anytime soon (!) ; do download or oder a copy today.

  6. What a stirring, spirited message. But is this the message Jesus delivered? Is this the message of the exceedingly Good News of the Kingdom of God/Heaven? No, this was a message of the Good News of a kingdom of men on earth. America is not Israel, nor can it ever be. God’s people (Spiritual Israel) are now of a Kingdom that is not corrupt and does need to be called to repentance.

    Neither Jesus nor the apostles ever spoke a message of repentance to the other nations, but only to His people. What was the message to the heathen and other foreign nations? Come out of your kingdoms of darkness and into the Kingdom of His marvelous Light!!!

    The reformation has done so much damage by trying to replicate the Kingdom in worldly nations by turning them into fleshly Israel nations.

    Let us not be deceived. A strong delusion is coming upon the world, and it is coming in the look and talk of righteousness – as ministers of righteousness. And it will draw us away from the Truth of 1) disciples of Christ anticipate great apostasy, not world-wide revival, and 2) those scriptures, especially 2 Chron 7-14 are speaking to the (then earthly) Kingdom of God, not a kingdom of darkness.

    Lastly, for those who are unaware, please do your research about what the Puritans brought in the way of Christianity (forcing people to go to church?); even Jesus didn’t do that to the rich young ruler. And please educate yourselves on the either non-Christian or openly demonic founders and findings of America. Two brothers have been bold and loving enough to tackle these issues: 1) David Bercot’s “Myth of Christian America” ( and 2) Chris Pinto’s “Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers” (on

    I appreciate Jonathan’s zeal and love for the Word of God, but I believe he is misapplying the message to America and it could cause many to step out of the perfection of His Kingdom to give glory and attention to the Babylon the Great: America.

    I believe the Harbinger DVD is connected to the Hebraic roots movement and WND (Joseph Farah, who is supporting or in support of a local ministry (now worldwide ministry) that says we are still under the Law and that Paul got it all wrong).

    A strong delusion is coming.

    Power, signs, and lying wonders. Unrighteous deception… because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie! (2 Thessalonians 2:9-11)

  7. Mark Phillips Jan 29th 2013
  8. Deb -- Pennsylvania Jan 29th 2013

    Instead of cheering, why weren’t those in attendance driven to their knees and weeping in repentance?

  9. Brother Mark, thank you for the book reference. Because of it, it has helped me to see that you misunderstand what I have written.

    I am appalled at the antisemitism of many Christians and non-Christian voices, alike, including the vitriolic, unloving writings against the Jews by Martin Luther, now hailed as the great Reformer.

    No, I love the Jews. And I am thankful for there role in carrying forth God’s Word, even though they woefully failed God, as Paul points out in 1 Cor 10… these (they) were examples of how we should not be, Jew and Gentile now in Christ, where this is now NO JEW NOR GENTILE… “for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Gal 3:28-29

    It matters not that this man is Jewish or Native American. I was not commenting on his ethnicity.

    I simply desire to exalt Christ and what He came to establish: A Kingdom without end, not made with hands (nor of the strength of men), and a King above all kings.

    It is He who established the New Covenant Kingdom apart from the earthly Jewish kingdom. It is He who satisfied all of the beautiful types, feasts, sacrifices, offerings, circumcision, and sabbaths of the Old Covenant.

    And it is He who invites all — unbelieving Jew and unbelieving Gentile (for He is no respecter of persons) — to COME and drink freely of the River of Life and to COME and eat of the Bread of Life and to COME and buy without money and without price that their soul may live. (Isa 55, John, Revelation)

    But it is also He who said:

    Matthew 21:43 (NKJV)
    “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.

    Anyone found despising the Jews has not the Love of God in them.

  10. Mark, you posted previously that you are an unregenerate Gentile. Do you really mean those words or is that a mean of humility?

    I only ask because the fulfillment of much of the Old Testament prophecy is that the Gentiles would be regenerated and serve and praise the Lord in gladness and JOY, not by the dead letter of the Law but in newness of Spirit.

    If you are unregenerate, repent and be baptized for the remission of your sins and you shall receive the Holy Spirit… the very Spirit of Christ!

    Titus 3:4 –Titus 3:7 (NKJV)
    But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

  11. Mark Phillips Jan 29th 2013

    Hi Jess
    ,no,it was not any thought at all of you being anti-Jew ; it was your labelling of God’s people as ‘Spiritual Israel.’ He spends the first 100 pages or so of the book discussing the disgusting history of anti-Jewishness ; and the next 50 or so dismantling the ‘Replacement Theology’ that fuels it.

    Replacement Theology comes from the ‘Magisterial Reformers’ camp ; not Holy Writ.

    I am onl;y an unregenerate Gentile,but MLB is one of the very finest Jewish Second Covenant Bible teachers on the planet ; the Way has morphed into ‘Gentile-ized ‘Christianity’ (‘Spiritual Israel’ is part of that thinking).

    Read MLB’s book ; he is regenerate,and knows the Holy Spirit and Holy Scripture ; indeed,he reads the Hebrew in the Hebrew and the Greek in the Greek.

    Here is MLB’s 23 minute personal testimonty (do watch it ; and do get the book) :

  12. Mark Phillips Jan 29th 2013

    And I meant to type Jeff ; not ‘Jess’ !

  13. john M Jan 29th 2013

    Refreshing and true. To my American cousins from the UK Follow this call to repentance and Revival and pray that we too here, will repent and bring our country back to Jesus. He has called many of us here to intercession for national repentance and Revival. We ask for your prayers What Rabbi Cahn said applies to us also

  14. Dirk Hiemstra Jan 29th 2013

    My heart is crying out, because at a message like this you would expect crying instead of cheering and applauding. It is not a message to part of America, let’s say the left part, but a message to America as a whole, all party’s included. If America as a whole wil not repent judgment wil not move away.

  15. Darren Sargent Jan 29th 2013

    In the first 6 minutes I was asking the question as I was listening: will the speaker exchange the USA for Israel? What is the assumption here: that the USA is God’s country? Dead on the 6th minute he did just that. Up to that point I had been stirred in my soul – not in my spirit. To my mind, it is the fusion of nationalistic rhetoric and the true gospel: a pollution of the beautiful message of repentance.

    As proof that this was not a message of repentance, it was neither greeted by repentance, nor by open hostility, nor by dumbfounded silence as such a message should have been. Mere sabre rattling tribalism for self interest: if we do this . . . then God will do this for us . . . : a transaction that is not grace.

    You cannot sow unshrunk cloth onto shrunk cloth, it will pull away in the end.

  16. Well said, Darren. My soul was stirred too, if the object had been the internationally sojourning pilgrim-nation of God’s people under Christ. Sadly, it was not.

  17. When I was watching this I had pause it for a moment to shout praises to The Lord Almoghty. Now there remains NO Excuse!!!!

  18. Richard Savage Jan 29th 2013

    Darren, Jeff, well said and thank you. I wholeheartedly agree.

    I can recommend David Marsh’s reappraisal of the New Testament Church – his analysis is superb and he leaves us to draw the conclusions.

    I’ll mail David for permission to post his email address here for a download pdf.

  19. I am in agreement with Jeff and Darren who hit the nail on the head. Well said.

    It was very stirring and had much new information. I do believe God has been involved in the forming and judgment of America, I also know that it has never been a Christian nation and presently, nationalism and Christianity are overly mixed.

    While there was much truth in the message, it was delivered in the flesh to people of the flesh and stirred the flesh.
    That does not make it a bad or untrue message. The ending of the message and the crowd’s reaction was proof of the type of message it was.

    As was pointed out, cheering was not the proper response.
    Who is responsible for the decline the speaker mentioned? It was the church and those present for being so worldly. They cheer because God is bringing judgement, but judgment begins at the church.

    Nero played while Rome burned and now Christians are playing while the world burns. God never intended such a response from His people.

  20. John Barron Jan 29th 2013

    Although Jonathan Cahn may not have appealed to the level of every critics theology (as is evident in some comments), he has at least put his faith into action and spoken God’s Truth in his field/pasture and on his watch. Can you and I say the same? As human’s we are all fallible and fall short of God’s Glory. However, God honours our obedience to Him. Rabbi Cahn spoke specifically of America, however his message of course applies to every country in the world and to every church of every denomination. He has planted seeds of God’s Truth. Who will water?

  21. Nellie Jan 29th 2013

    What is the odds that the Prez and VP were not there? Heard that animals run when there is a wildfire and not many could take type of heat.

  22. sharon Jan 29th 2013

    Amen to that good word. There is no excuse after hearing the truth.

  23. Suzanne Jan 29th 2013

    I believe that the message preached by the above, is the 2nd of 3.
    The 1st is here:

    Rather than a rousing standing ovation, we should be bowed down in reverance and repentance, before our God. I am deeply concerned for this nation, as I feel that we are in the throes of our “Last Call”, and that we have 1 more coming.

  24. harvestistipe Jan 29th 2013

    A VERY TIMELY MESSAGE, When I watched this video if left me with very few words other than to ask the Lord to forgive me and my country it left me examining my heart,even deeper and the worldlyness we tend to allow in, see this message was a witness a conformationto my spirit of exactly where America is spiritually, I trust this message is doing the same to others that see the dead seriousness of this message.

    This video needs to be sent out by us all, it is a message of repentance so rerely seen today.

    If we are honest most of us need to repent and stop giving place to the flesh that holds us in rebellion against the willl of God. Oh Lord, may this message bring repentance and a renewed spirit within in all whom hear it. May we desire to live only for him.

    See God says he changes NOT! he is the same yesterday today and forever, he still judges sin, weather it be Israel, America, Christchurch, ect. this was not about saying America was Israel he was not preaching a replacement theology, he was led of the Holy Spirit to call a nation that was started as a nation that named the name of God whom gave place to God over this nation at its very beginning,

    There was a point in his message I witnesses the people there being touched by his message – actually gasping, and yes many a few times clapping in agreement with excitement of what he was proclaming, perhaps a few so excited to witness the truth.

    Oh brothers sisters I believe the Lord used this message with a handful there and will many across the webb. Gods plans are bigger than ours we see dimly but please allow your spiritual eyes see what God has done here.This man is a rareity and I praise God for his boldness and Praise God he was the one to speak at the Prayer Breakfast, with such a powerful message, which I believe God had a bigger plan than just there.

    I have seen the importance of this video so much so the enemy of our soul has taken it down twice If you remenber 911, was what I believe when the Lord has lifted his hand off my rebellous nation this USA, people rushed to the churches for three months and the church had no power nor answers no real repentance message, no restoration for a country to come back to the Lord and to turn from her adultry and sin, but only a watered down fleshly message without the true heart of God and a people truely repenting. we are a people whom are reaping what we have sown.

    I find it not a considence this message was spoken to many within the church, it was the prayer breakfast mostly people whom claim the name of Jesus Christ in attendance God used this faithful servant to call first the church to repentance and this nation, yet it is branching out too the world for I see it is now being viewed by other nations, this is not just and American thing only.

    Dear brothers sisters it is sooo much bigger than that, may it awaken Gods watchmen deep within their bones to cry out once again for repentance time is short, the bride of Jesus Christ is being prepared in this hour, Jesus will have his true witnesses who will go throughout the whole earth reaching souls, with true repentance comes a hunger for rightwousness and the desire for the gospel of Jesus Christ to reach others it is the Holy Spirit re-kindling, re-awakening a passion for the lost within ones spirit. It is a turning away from the wordly temptations that have beset us and to that which is eternal, for only that which is eternal will last all else will burn up

    .May we pray for more faithful servants to boldly proclaim the need for repentance, may we become a vessel used of the Lord Jesus Christ, a huge harvest is in the making of a short few years with an open door to reach many for the Kingdom

    .Please let us Pray for one another, let us put the cross before us the world behind us and be truely led of the Holy Spirit, let your oil be full,as we await his coming.

    Brothers sisters, my heart is truely in pain, I am beginnig to witness the falling away on a grand scale, the body of Christ needs to come out of her slumber .I weep for this awakening.

    May our precious Lord and Savior receive the honor of our sacrifice for the huge price he paid on that cross to save our very souls, may we be that light in the darkness that surrounds us, may we increase his kingdom and bring glory to our Lord,and our king is my cry my prayer.

  25. Every word spoken by this man is the truth. I have written the very same words in my books. God showed me on 9/13/01 what judgment was coming to America. He showed me everything this man spoke. It is the truth. God’s covering over America has been removed. It is history repeating itself.

  26. Clare Watts Jan 29th 2013

    Hallelujah! Thank You Father for sending the spirit of Jeremiah to speak to us. Thank You, Father for such mercy and grace shown us by holding off Your judgment and sending yet ANOTHER warning. Thank You Father for “The Harbinger”, and for this bold and brave prophet, Jonathan Kahn……thank You LORD! May there BE TRULY a spirit of DEEP repentance come across this nation and forgiveness of sins. Help us LORD in our pride and rebellion, help us LORD in our worldliness and godlessness to turn back to You, and seek Your face. Blessed be the name of Jesus!

  27. With out a doubt the most bold,powerful,up to date and truthful message that I have ever heard!! If this don’t turn people towards God, heaven help us.

  28. Magnificent speech of Truth, but sadly a message from the past. At present, this nation was once more GOD believing than now. This nation is blind and lack of truth and I truly believe they heard not the message of this man…….

  29. Allan Halton Jan 29th 2013

    Jeff and Darren, well said. It seems there is a great veil over the minds of many Christians these days as to the relationship between natural Israel and the church (and therefore the relationship between Old Testament prophecy and the New Covenant). And I don’t think Jonathan Cahn is helping much to take away that veil. In fact I think he is intensifying it. I read his book The Harbinger a while ago and was left with deep misgivings about this man’s ministry.

  30. 140 years after God visited Israel in judgment through the Assyrians, God would visit Judah’s backsliding with His instrumemt of judgment, Babylon.
    Israel’s leader’s responded to God’s warning with defiance and self reliance. Judah’s response was similar in many ways to the American Public; half-hearted and insincere repentance.
    In Jeremiah 34, the Prophet emplored the king to repent and receive a measure of mercy. Initially, the response was positive and they honored God’s word by freeing the Hebrew slaves they had contrary to God’s word. They did this by entering into covenant with God at a ceremony in the Temple of God.
    When Babylon withdrew it’s attack and the threat was no longer imminent, Judah had a change of heart and took the Hebrew’s back as slaves again. For breaking covenant, God gave them over to the Babylonians.
    When America was hit on 911, we witnessed the greatest influx of church growth since the charasmatic revival. Any gains were quickly forgotten, however, as terrorism has not visited our shores and the pain associated with it has been forgotten. The repentant masses that flocked to our churches after 911 left just as quickly and have returned to their materialistic, carnal ways.
    We don’t need right politics to cure what ails America, we need a church wide revival that will lead to America’s third awakening. When Kings and Nations come to the brightness of the church’s dawn, pray America is that Nation. No, we were not Christian at heart in our conception, but only had a form. A revival leading to reformation can make America Christian indeed.

  31. Richard Savage Jan 29th 2013

    Allan Halton, well said. I used to be a campaigner, letter writer, in fact most anything to get over a Biblical point. Not so much now.

    It was pointed out to me, and witnessed so strongly with my spirit, that the Christian has no relationship with the world, the flesh and the devil. To embrace them is to deny the Headship of Christ. We are not the world’s moral guardians, we may not impose a Biblical morality upon a nation, a people or even a small town. That is not our given role.

    We are witnesses; Paul called us the off-scourings, and with that in mind, it’s little wonder the world takes so little notice of us.

    The mixing of Church/State or religion/State is little but a pretext to draw us away from Christ Jesus, and into the arms of another suitor.

  32. Richard Savage Jan 29th 2013

    Ron, I’m afraid no revival is going to make America, or anywhere else, Christian. The phenomena doesn’t exist outside our imaginations.

    We Brits though England was a Christian nation, complete with a national church, heavy attendance figures etc., when all the time the darkest of deeds was being done throughout the empire, and at home, and that in the name of a ‘Christian’ nation.

    At best we’re the salt. I don’t see Jesus expected his followers to be anything else.

  33. Amen to Darren Sargent and Jeff’s writings! I was very confused when I first started listening to this video. Who was applauding? Why were they applauding? Who exactly was he speaking to? So, as I now understand that it was Christians he was speaking to, at a prayer breakfast held by Christians, it makes more sense that there was cheering. But does that comfort me and make me cheer? Absolutely not. For I am tired of hearing Christians CHEER for the message that someone else needs to repent. Repentance needs to begin in the House of God. In fact, Judgment will begin in the House of God:

    1 Peter 4:17– For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18– And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?”

    All of us who call ourselves Christian should be on our knees, first seeking mercy, cleansing and revival for our own selves in the areas where we fall short either because of our own selfish desires or because of strongholds/habits that we have not taken seriously enough to get rid of, then we should be pleading for revival and salvation and mercy to come to everyone else whom we know around us. But do we believe Judgment is really coming? Do we believe it really will be a sad and a terrifying time on Earth, with many dying only to find Hell their next home?

    The way the world is going … the earth groaning with the pains of labor in earthquakes, cyclones, erupting volcanoes and persecution in many countries … there really should not be any Christians anywhere cheering, but Christians everywhere should be soberly readying themselves for the Return of the Lord and evangelizing everyone they know and come in contact with! May God grant us repentance first, and then those whom we evangelize,

  34. watchful Jan 29th 2013

    …the spirit of Elijah/John the Baptist….the Father is warning and giving America and other nations who have called themselves Christian a chance to repent, and whether they will or not, He is still faithful to warn and admonish. I think some of the listeners were just rejoicing at this courageous and bold proclamation of truth, I know my heart was cheering him on when I saw the video.

    Whether I would agree with every jot and tittle of what this fellow believes or not, there was something so refreshing to hear the gospel so boldly proclaimed in that environment and then to be carried along by the Holy Spirit at the end. Well, I guess he was invited to speak, and God bless him for making the most of the opportunity! I pray the Lord to watch over him and protect him.

  35. Suzanne Jan 29th 2013

    This is the word of the Lord for this nation! Repentance is the call to all who will hear His voice. Read the Book of Revelation. God said He poured out judgments and gave them time to repent BUT THEY WOULD NOT. Who was He talking about? This is a relevant message to all nations, but especially to America because ‘to whom much is given, much is required.’ Jesus came with the message of the Kingdom of God, the Gospel of Good News, to THOSE WHO WOULD REPENT OF THEIR SINS AND TURN TO HIM, FOLLOW HIM AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS! Yes, we who are born again,are citizens of a heavenly kingdom but He told us to go and make disciples of ALL NATIONS – earthly nations, because the earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof and He calls ALL MEN, EVERYWHERE to repent and believe the Gospel. Judgment is hanging over the nation. Do we not believe we are living in the last days? What did God say it would be like? “As in the days of Noah” and “as Sodom and Gomorrah,” a time of LAWLESSNESS! What does this look like? Look around you. We’ve removed God’s laws, the Ten Commandments, out of the courtrooms, out of the schools and out of the national consciousness and lawlessness is increasing everywhere because there is no moral plumbline to measure against without the standard of the Word of God and His commandments. So often I hear Christians say we’re just being ‘legalistic’ when we talk this way, after all ‘the law has been done away’, right? WRONG! Or do you not read the Words of Jesus in Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law and the prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill.” Then we promptly think He did away with it because He fulfilled it. We think that He said this to those ‘under the law’ because He said it before He died on the cross, and that Paul taught the law was abolished. If Paul thought the law was done away then what do you make of this, to paraphrase Acts 21, Paul came before James and the Elders in Jerusalem and told them of all the things happening in his ministry and they said to him, ‘See, brother, how many Jews there are (in Jerusalem) that believe and they are all ZEALOUS OF THE LAW,’ and now they will come together because they’ll hear that you have come and they’ve heard that you have been teaching the Jews that are among the Gentiles to forsake the law of Moses…” which Paul denied completely and they told him to prove it to the people by taking a vow of purification (which is right out of the OT so obviously not considered ‘done away’), which he did. They go on to say, ‘but as to the believing Gentiles, we are only asking them to keep themselves from idols, from blood, from things strangled and from fornication.’ If we aren’t people who study the Word, we’ll think that’s all that’s required of us, because the law was obviously for the Jews and not for us. However, if you go back and read Acts 15 you’ll see that this situation is spoken of there and makes it quite clear. There were Pharisees who were trying to say that the Gentiles needed to circumcise their children, etc. IN ORDER TO BE SAVED, but the Council of Jerusalem Elders wanted them to know they weren’t JUSTIFIED by doing that but that they were saved by grace through faith in Jesus, then they added that they would just ask the Gentiles to do the things listed above because, and the next verse explains it. In Acts 15:21 right after saying this was all that was required of the Gentiles, it says, “For Moses of old time hath those in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath day.” The clear meaning of this is that the Gentiles will now be attending synagogue on the Sabbath and will learn how to ‘walk out their salvation’ through the ‘teachings and instructions’ (which is the true meaning of the word that our Bibles have translated as ‘law’ which is Torah), so it’s obvious they didn’t consider the law/Torah done away! Neither did Paul, even though it sounds like that when you read some of his writings. I’m sure this was why the early church was hearing that he had been teaching that, also. However, our Bible translations don’t differentiate between the ‘oral laws and traditions’ known as the ‘fence laws’ that the Pharisees had put on the people, and the ‘law of God’ – the commandments, etc. yet when you look at a Bible that’s been translated right from the Hebrew and Aramaic, you’ll see Paul’s meaning and intent is much clearer. I’m sorry, friends, but we have believed a lot of lies and we’d better seek the Lord for the truth and get back to a serious study of the Word of God. Evem Peter warns us in 2 Peter 3:15, 16 “Even as our beloved brother, Paul, has written to us in all his epistles, some things that are hard to understand, which they which are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.” So even then, there were people who were misinterpreting the Word of God, the scriptures, which at that time was ONLY the Old Testament, as the New Testament hadn’t been compiled yet, and they misinterpreted Pauls’ writings, even as we have done today. In order to understand him we need to go back and study them through Hebraic eyes, through the times and culture of the day, as well as through translations directly from the Hebrew and Aramaic of the day, because we really do ‘lose something in translation’ when we are using Bibles that are translations of translations of translations! We don’t want to do this TO OUR OWN DESTRUCTION! Therefore, I exhort you brethren, be diligent students of the Word of God, like the Bereans who were more noble than those of Thessalonica because they searched the scriptures to see ‘if what Paul said, was true. Make your calling and election sure and be certain that you are not one of the many who will stand before the Lord as it says in Matthew 7 and say, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your Name, and cast out devils, and do many mighty things? And He will answer them and say, ‘Be gone from me, YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY (which means LAWLESSNESS), I NEVER KNEW YOU!! ” How can we be sure we know Him? Jesus told us, “You will know that you know me, when you keep my commandments,” and we say, that means we just have to love God and love each other, which is true but how do we do that? He said, “If you love me, you’ll keep my commandments,” In other words, you’ll be doers of the Word and not hearers only. We need to remember that Jesus was the living Word of God. He came to show us how to keep the commandments by the Spirit from the heart, and not ritualistically when our hearts aren’t in it. He magnified the law and made it honorable!! (Is 42:21) Only one more thing I will add to this and that’s that Paul was known as the ringleader of the Nazarenes (Acts 24:5) and who were they? Study this yourself. They were the ones who were known because they KEPT THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND HAD THE FAITH OF JESUS. Who are the only ones who are God’s true people as it says in Revelation? They are the ones WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND HAVE THE FAITH OF JESUS. And in Rev. 22:14 it says, “Blessed are they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city..” Do you see how critical this is? I for one, am determined to be in that group. What about you? I pray you will take this to heart and that we will all repent of our evil ways, and repent on behalf of our nation, and seek the Lord ’til He comes and rains righteousness upon us,’ once again. God bless Jonathan Cahn for speaking the truth!!

  36. Unfortunately, the President was not there. Probably just about everyone who NEEDED to be there was not there. However, like the prophet Jeremiah, Adonai’s message was delivered in Washington, D.C.
    This nation will soon fall…except for major repentance and revival. And even perhaps then, it will still fall, just as revival marvelously fell in Cambodia, yet tens of thousands of those believers became martyrs for Christ in “The Killing Fields.” I don’t KNOW that this will happen in America, too, but just because their is Divine intervention does not necessarily mean that strong and destructive judgments won’t still come.

  37. Good word, Suzanne!

  38. antipas4yahshua Jan 29th 2013

    I found the video rather insightful however it is a mixed bag of attempting to mix politics and religion.
    Any attempts to ask government to do what is right/moral is hypocritical given the state and reputation of the Christian church in America and the result it is impotence.

    None of the major denominations have spoken out or taken a stand against non of the illegal nor immoral activity of the government.
    The sin church is just as bad or even worse than that of the government.

    The only rebuttal to government that would be along the line of John the Baptist:
    – his testimony/character was unquestionable (this is foundation)
    – he addressed the unlawful acts (Matt 14:4)
    – he had nothing to loose

    To date the Christian denominations have not spoken out against the breaking of laws due to the legislative laws in place (ie if they speak out they become a political entity and lose their tax free status – read this again 3x’s)

    Look at the new legislation in place for business who dont provide free contraceptives for their employees faces up $1.3 million dollar a day fine.

    That is the reason why the end time witness will be clothed in sackcloth – they have nothing to loose and will take on the false religions as well as the corrupt political.


  39. Richard Savage Jan 29th 2013

    Suzanne, you are absolutely right! We have been lead to believe, and have believed deeply, lies. Preachers, teachers, pastors etc., are responsible for this, but not all. We must also give credit to ‘christian’ media, they do a good job of perverting a simple truth.

    You’re also right when you talk about translations misleading us, and no amount of pleading will ever persuade me and English translation is even barely adequate; in fact, the NIV is very misleading in places.

    I just realise all this until I came out of the churches twenty years ago, and began a deep, deep study of the Bible, learning the original languages in the process. Ah, what a difference in meaning.

    The outfall of much of this untruth is that we are depending on Jesus to fulfil promises we’ve made, or been made, on His behalf, when He didn’t ever make that promise! Therefore, disappointment leading to unbelief. The ultimate sin!

    I’d follow the words of another, fictional, rabbi a hundred years ago. May the LORD bless the rabbi Kahn, and keep him a very long way from me.

  40. Wow – thank you so much for posting this!

    I received Jonathan Cahns book `The Harbinger` for my birthday
    (which incidentally was the 21st January) the same day as this address

    I believe Cahn is one of God`s prophets

    Amos 3:7
    Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.

    Everything is now being shaken whether it be Nations/ Banks/ Businesses/ Churches or individuals!

    Just look around the world!

    Hebrews 12:26
    At that time His voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Yet once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.”

    We are living in fearful times and there`s only one answer – Jesus!

    Isaiah 55:6
    Seek the LORD while he may be found; call on him while he is near.

  41. harvestistipe, Deborah and Suzanne, Watchman, well said. Jonathan Cahn could not have warned us better. He is a true Watchman at the Gate. This was a prayer breakfast, not a revival. Many of the patrons were possibly Christians in name only. Thank goodness he spoke, God ordained words, no doubt.

    I have never seen so much judgement passed from Christians to other Christians. Oh my. When, oh, when will people think no emotions can be felt during a speach of such proportions, life and death of their nation, or their souls? Where is that talked about in God’s word, I need to read and study those warnings. When you are re-born, even your emotions, that God gave you at birth, are also ‘reborn’, or washed in the blood of the lamb. He says when you think good thoughts, and live by His thoughts, your whole being will change, you become Light and Salt..

  42. Andrew Jan 29th 2013

    I agree that there were touches of “mixing nationalism with Christianity” in parts of Jonathan Cahn’s speech.

    But the things I truly appreciated about it were-

    (1) BOLDNESS! – A lot of black-and-white truth about sin and judgment in a place that is known for compromise and whimpy political correctness.
    (2) WARNING! – The nation has been warned in a way that cannot be ignored. -And yes, it does apply to all of the West. The hour of judgment is here.

    So for these reasons I am very grateful for Jonathan Cahn and his strong word delivered in Washington in this hour.

    Bless you all!

    Andrew Strom.

  43. antipas4yahshua Jan 29th 2013

    @Suzanne – right on !!
    Many “Christians” have been taught the following to their own destruction:
    – their is no law for the Christian
    – Under “grace”

    The misinterpretation of Pauls writings in Romans, Galations & Hebrews have decimated many people. They are casualties as soon as they start.
    Here is a rebuttal from a “Jewish perspective” on both if you permit- take it as you wish.

    There are 3 sections of TORAH – Cerimonial, Moral, and Social.
    – Cerimonial Law while some have been done away with while some have transcended (baptism, laying on of hands, spiritual circumcision, leven, vessel washing, feasts).
    – Moral Law has become MORE stricter – saying somethings against a neighbor or lusting in your heart (ie actual & spiritual integrity) The 10 commandments are fully intact and have been enhanced ( so has G_D’s Spirit). Gods favor abounds MORE.
    – Social Law, some parts done away with and some transcended (tithing, gathering, bishops & elders etc)

    The disciple of Jesus is one who “repents” of known sin and is baptized in water. Then daily denies themself, picks up their cross, and follows Jesus and does their best to live and act like Jesus.

    The NEW COVENANT is seen in:
    Heb 8:10 & Jeremiah 31:33
    10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord: I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts.
    I will be their God, and they will be my people.

    The reason for the law is seen in Gal 3:19-25

    The NEW TESTAMENT LAW is explained beautifully in Rom 6, 7, 8 (Paul referred to it as the “Law of Spirit of Life” to those that are “in Christ”.

    ROM 8:2 For the Spirit’s law of life in Messiah Jesus has set me a free from the law of sin and death.

    Rom 6:14 (in context)
    For sin will not have mastery over you, because you are not under law but under grace.

    If sin has mastery over a person a person commits a known sn – then they are under the Law of Sin & Death (Paul stated this in Rom Chapter 7). To be “in Christ” is a slave to righteousness ( this is a life long process).

    Nothing will change that- this is NOT A SINGLE VERSE that alters, dismisses, or minimizes, does away with, or replaces “the law of reaping and sowing”. To gain life(Christ) one has to sow holiness and righteousness.

    Rom 8:13 For if you live according to human nature, you are going to die, but if by the Spirit you continually put to death the activities of the body, you will live.

    NT salvation (deliverance) is much more encompassing than forgiveness – it is freedom from sin (guilt & behavior) . This is called “overcoming” (Rev 2 &3) and is part of the New Covenant which not only forgives but delivers. That is one of the many reasons for the Holy Spirit – to lead a righteous and Holy Life (Titus 2:11-12).

    Sorry about the rambling….


  44. ….

    wonderfully said, antipas4yahshua.

  45. Philip Jan 29th 2013

    I am certain that Rabbi Cahn does not believe in Replacement theology. I think he was, as a prophetic voice, trying to send a message to America, that God will send judgement if we continue our evil path. I am not sure he was trying to appease all of the bible scholars on here, he was trying to proclaim the Word of God to a crown that needed to hear this message on a national stage in a proper setting.

  46. Andrew Jan 29th 2013

    Well said, Philip

    We can all point out our little quibbles with bits of it.

    But I still regard it as an important prophetic warning to America and the West. A loud and clear trumpet blast.

    I pray people will listen.

    Bless you!


  47. Richard Savage Jan 29th 2013

    antipas4yahshua: excellent! I say shalom aleichem to you, your contributions are understood here.

  48. Marjorie Jan 29th 2013

    I was recently loaned his book ‘The Harbinger’ which I have found amazing. There is so much more detail in it of God’s judgemental dealings with America. Judgements that come because of God’s grace and because, as with Israel, His love and mercy give nations a chance to return to Him before it is too late. He is so patient with all of us. We only need to read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to see how long suffering is our God.

  49. onesimo Pot Jan 29th 2013

    This was a powerful message given without fear or favour. A message from God conveyed by His prophet. I pray that AMERICA, its leaders will rise to the occasion. Thank God for fearless men!

  50. Kathleen in WA State Jan 29th 2013


    Some months back I read “The Harbinger” by Johnathan Cahn. Many have scoffed at the book’s premise, but there is no doubt Rabbi Cahn is a strudent of the scriptures, and of prophecy. I found it to be riveting, much as I did this video. There is no doubt in my mind that America stands squarely in the crosshairs of decline.

    I applaud his boldness; and am so grateful he was given so public a forum for speaking. Maybe someone actually got it.


  51. Excellent!! Finally a man of God and courage to speak prophetically to those in public office that need to hear.

    No mystery as to why obama and biden not there, darkness can’t dwell in the light, nor can those who love the lie and delusion abide in truth. Those who can’t understand spiritual things do not have the Spirit of Truth in them.

    He was there last year. I don’t care what the excuse or reason was this year for non attendance, I do believe that the program and sermon were made known to them first and they chose not to come. How could he sit through this? Not with what he has done and is doing, humility is not within him. Nor most that do serve in government these days. There are a few exceptions.

    I hope and pray that this video makes its rounds in America and becomes wide spread. I do pray for men of courage and a fear of God to be given the office of those who currently hold them. From the least to the greatest, administration, justice and law.

    God says, Himself, that He HATES workers of iniquity. Not just the sin. Psalm 5. There is special judgement and wrath reserved for those who love evil, run to it and mock God. Not sins of ignorance. They all have had access to the Word, others who have spoken the bible to them, a knowledge of right from wrong etc…..they and we are all without excuse.

    We are to pray for our leaders, so I do pray that they will repent or that God destroy them and they will be of no more remembrance on the earth.

    It is only by God’s slow to anger and not that any should perish that our judgements have not come quicker and fuller. But they will continue for He is not a man that would lie. Is America capable of national repentance at this point? I don’t believe so, not without further destruction and loss. Even after 911 it was short lived.

    We need righteous leaders and restoration. Only God can do that, no right wing movement or any organization can bring in what only God can do. Prayer, repentance and hope. Speak truth. That is all we can do. Abide in Christ and He will bring us through, His true people are not reserved for wrath or the destruction of judgement. We will abide under His wings and we will witness the destruction of the wicked from His shadow of protection.

  52. Tilman Jan 29th 2013

    What a remarkable speech! Blessed be this man! And he was right to quote other prophets who already predicted the judgement over America, because they already have forseen what’s coming.

    When Jona was sent to Ninive, this big city, it was touched by his repentance call and its King ordered the whole city to think about his words. Obama should do the same and tell the nation better to listen to this inauguration sermon. The King of Ninive said:

    “Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed nor drink water (!): But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands” (Jonah 3,7-8).

    I am not impressed by the cheering of the audience because American people are doing this at the end of almost every speech. America has to show that it takes the Bible seriously as the word of God and it has to repent by days of prayer and fasting. God is just and he will act with America like he acted with Ninive – if only America’s leaders repent. This kind of speech should be hold in Congress every month and Jonathan Cahn should be ordained to preach whenever the Congress passes its unlawful laws.

    Its a shame what this nation has done to other nations and still does on earth today. America is no better nation than any other nation and has to repent! Repentance has to start in the government and they have to do away their idolatry on Wallstreet and repent from their wicked ways by oppressing other nations. How much money do they spend each year for their military! Isn’t it awful?

    Accidentally, it is this nation that has more evangelical Christians today than any other nation on earth – and therefore has been blessed so much in the past. But unless the government listens to the voice of this pastor, the judgment will come, simply because God is able to protect his people, even when judgement comes.

  53. Richard Savage Jan 29th 2013

    Please, do tell me, where have OT prophets spoken of America?

    Please cite chapter and verse.

  54. Suzanne, very well said, I’m going to save your post to send to others.
    You have really put it reasonably and distinctly.
    It is good to see that you and some others here, including Andrew, actually study God’s word for yourself, to find out if what is being said in Churches, is actually true.
    I always listen to what people say and then go to prove myself wrong by the scriptures, trouble is, I come to the same conclusions as you and others, the Deceiver is well at work in the Churches, appearing as an Angel of light.
    He wants us to do away with the Law of God, yet this is the only defensive weapon we have, the sword of the Spirit.
    When the law is viewed through the veil, that is the flesh, it seems like a rod for our backs, but when viewed through the Spirit, it is all that Psalm 19 and Psalm 119 says that it is.
    Of course, I am talking about the moral law, the Ten Commandments, which was written in Exodus 20, but the ordinances were written in Exodus 21-23.
    Sometimes I pray, “Lord, if I’m wrong and you don’t tell me, then when I stand before you on that Day of judgement, I will say to you, “I asked you, but you didn’t tell me.”, so it will not be my fault but yours.””
    This maybe a bit bold, but it gets straight to the point and it leaves me in no doubt about where I stand.
    Cheers all.

  55. I’m reminded of the intercession over Sodom & Gamora if there were 50 righteous he wouldn’t destroy it!
    Jonah & ninava after God delt with Jonah he preached to that nation & they heard him & repented. Praise God for men & women that God is raising up in this hour. Who’s agenda is not their own but rather the Lords. I do believe God still has salt & light in the earth today.
    God himself opened that door for Johnathan to speak & bring revelation on his word! Who will hear? “If my people………”
    It’s always been about choices, choose you today who you will serve, life or death.

  56. It is interesting to note for those that say that “we are no longer under the law,” yet claim to be the son’s of Abraham, that is to son’s of righteousness by faith.
    Yet in Isaac’s dream in Gen. 26:5, God says, in blessing Isaac, that “Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My Commandments, My statutes and My laws.”
    If we claim to be righteous by faith, perhaps we should be as Abraham was also. Faith without works is dead.

  57. Very, very interesting. I read The Harbinger a few months back and found it fascinating. What a great speech! Can America really turn around? I often wondered if the USA needs to be ‘removed’ to make way for other Bible prophecy.

  58. Sherry Jan 30th 2013

    I say, Praise God! One of God’s spokesmen has spoken. I believe he is one of many watchman. Some have gone on to be with the Lord such as Leonard Ravenhill and David Wilkerson being of that number. What Love, grace and mercy that the Lord would continue to send over and over again a message to this nation.

    Let us continue to pray for our leaders and for all men as it states in I Timothy 2.1 Timothy 2 (King James Version)

    1 Timothy 2
    King James Version (KJV)

    2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

    2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

    3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

    4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

    5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

    In Christ,

  59. antipas4yahshua Jan 30th 2013

    @Richard Savage
    How OT scriptures would you like ?
    I’ll do my best to “connect the dots” and hopefully it will make sense.

    ANY NATION ( ie group of people ) that are “wicked” are judged.
    If the wickedness continues and there is no repentance ( ie turning away) then there are natural consequences from nature, other nation, or G_D Himself that is considered “WRATH”

    Judgement is redemptive ( David prayed for it – “Judge me O”L_rd” – he wanted to know so he could please G_D).

    Wrath is “total destruction” ( Btw, this is the original message of the NT. The “day of wrath” when Yahshua comes to establish His RULE on the earth.

    What happened to Israel when they disobeyed the covenant ?
    When they behaved in the a very very wicked manner – G_D did not intervene on their behalf.
    You might want to consider the flood of Noah ( take a gander at the Book of Jasher – it is rather insightful).
    “The earth is the Lords and fullness thereof and all that dwell in it.”
    G_D only permits bloodshed/wickedness so long from any nation – the entire OT is very descriptive regarding this.

    America’s allowing abortion (approx 12,000, 000) A YEAR is appalling ( compare this to child sacrifice. However, it is more hideous. – going into a women’s protected womb to kill a child that is in the image of G_D).
    This is a abomination.
    America has condones homosexual behavior (remember Sodom ?)
    Justice has been perverted (don’t get me started on this)

    G_D is going to judge America for the blood, wickedness, and immorality done- Thank G_D !!!- His judgments are faithful and true and I am quite surprised He has let it go this far.
    NO OTHER NATION has been so blessed in the history of the world.
    This can not be denied.
    No other nation has aborted so many children and has endorsed immoral sexual conduct to date.
    This can not be denied.

    G-D is allowing the evil to escalate. He does this for a reason. Luke 10
    13 “How terrible it will be for you, Chorazin! How terrible it will be for you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that happened in you had taken place in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.But it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you.And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths.
    ( these are some heavy scriptures to meditate on)
    Note, G_D allowed the evil to escalate.

    To America – much has been given and much will be required. There will be a point “Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting..”Daniel 5:27

    Every nation has a rise to power and decline of power. History shows the decline is due to immorality/wickedness EVERY SINGLE TIME.
    This cannot be denied.


  60. Revelation 12:7-12

    And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

    God warned this nation for decades through anointed men like David Wilkerson, Derek Prince, Leonard Ravenhill, Dumitru Duduman, etc… did anyone listen to them?

    The judgments of God are already happening around the world and many will be shocked and unprepared for the next prophecy of Revelation that will be fulfilled.

    The bride is being made ready for the marriage supper of the Lamb!

  61. Someone speaks the truth here…………………
    WHEN the iniquity of ANY nation reaches the FULL
    EVEN in old testament
    GOD had the isrelites NOT yet GO up to the ammorites
    and destroy them……………WHY…………
    BECAUSE HE SAID, the iniquity of this nation IS NOT YET FULL.
    HE also states to Israel…………………later on
    in the word…………..THAT it was NOT because of their own righteousness
    they had destroyed any nation…………..WAS because the INIQUITY of THAT NATION was WORSE.
    YES…………………AMERICA has WAXED mass evil.
    AND as in the days of old………………..
    Prophets were sent to WARN………….
    As with jonah…………………..THEY heard
    and repentance made………..
    later though ninevah went bad…………..and was destroyed.
    JUDGEMENT is coming alright………..
    BUT ITS COMING to the church FIRST…………
    TIS the leaven of the doctrines of many churches
    WHICH has leavned the entire LUMP.
    CHURCHES now parade as much for gays rights
    and an new age religion of all roads lead.
    THE CHURCHES have Been found guilty of being worse
    than the surrounding nations…………
    BECAUSE the world knows NOT GOD………….
    BUT the churches have the bible, and had the chance to hear of him……………and many have…………….and NOW dont want
    the TRUTH but rather……………..invent a GOD to suit the needs of the flesh. JUDGMENT is coming……………and
    the call to BUY OF GOD , GOLD tried in the FIRE is nigh……..
    LET US KNOW and UNDERSTAND……………….when we the church is judged of GOD……………we are chastened of HIM
    SO THAT we are NOT condmened with the rest of the world.
    ALL GOD loves he chastens and scourges……….
    A GREAT JUDGMENT is coming upon the CHURCHES………
    MAY the lambs repent………………and may they COME to the FIRST LOVE…………….embrace the cross…………
    BUT dont lose HOPE…………………..ALL GOD LOVES he chastnes
    and at the END of our faith………………… more teares
    no more suffering………………A reward, the GLORY which shall be revealed in HIS day………….
    BUT…………………IF JUDGMENT FIRST begin at US………….
    WHAT shall the END be OF THEM………..who know NOT GOD,
    who reject the LOVE of the truth.
    SO the message is CLEAR………………..GO YE OUT INTO
    the WORLD……………and proclaim the gosple of GOD.
    FIRST we , the church is persecuted…………..
    BUT GOD recompenses those who perscecuted us …………at the END. THUS PRAY NOW for your enemies…………
    PRAY them COME TO CHRIST NOW. NO christian should desire hell for the worst of men. PRAY for all who persecute you.
    JUST know and understand………………JUDGEMENT is COMING
    to the body of CHRIST………………..
    and some shall repent……………..this is GOOD NEWS
    Repentace for any who has been lukewarm or etc………
    SO LONG as they DO repent. SOON……………..SOON
    JUDGMENT comes FIRST upon the churches………..
    Be blessed.

  62. Yes, he delivered a passionat message. He presented many facts regarding the past and present spiritual condition of America. He spoke many truths from God’s word. Although I’ve not read the Harbinger book, I’ve watched him speak about the Harbinger Book on Christian programing, and I’ve read readers reviews. For me, I don’t give weight to spiritual mapping using signs, symbols and historical events – no matter how fascinating. All we need to know about life and events to come are written in the Holy Word of God. Scripture is clear about end-time events and what to expect in the last days. For me, my MAIN concern is he did not present, preach or teach on the gospel of Jesus Christ. He breifly mentions the name of Jesus, but never speaks of Him being the Son of God. No mention of the Cross of Christ, the blood of Jesus, our needing a Savior, and forgivness provided only through Jesus.The message of the gospel is the message of Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Yes, he spoke of America’s sin, and our need to return to God, but he left out the true gospel message.


    under ‘free audio’ 2nd talk down
    ‘America and Babylon’

    well worth the time to listen to!!

  64. antipas4yahshua Jan 30th 2013

    Btw, here is a very insightful read from a real man of G_D regarding Babylon witten by Issac Penington (1659) The amount of insight from 400 years ago is amazing..

  65. antipas4yahshua Jan 30th 2013

    Btw, here is a very good read from a real man of G_D regarding Babylon witten by Issac Penington (1659) The amount of insight from 400 years ago is amazing..

  66. Dianne Jan 30th 2013

    What a powerful message. We in Australia need to hear this same message as we have turned away from God also.
    My favourite verse is 2 chronicles 7: 14. We as a nation and individually need to repent.

  67. Steven Bolstridge Jan 30th 2013

    The history of this nation is not complete unless it includes history from the black and native American perspectives. Their history along with the motives of power and greed cannot be left out.

  68. Lucinda Reppert Jan 30th 2013

    WOW!! That was AWESOME!! HALLELUYAH!! Looked like they were trying to shut Him down toward the end!! I Love it he gave the Word in my Spirit and Loved this ” Take up the Mantle of Your Calling Now.” This is the message the Holy Spirit is speaking to His people. Bless Jonathan Kahn.

  69. Carmen Quesada Jan 30th 2013

    Where was the President then?? (I don’t get it, did Obama hear the speech??)

  70. After watchful posted the link to this message on the previous thread I searched it out and found it somewhere else (it had been removed at the link watchful gave us)…

    I’d heard Jonathan speak once before but this time I was riveted…

    I found myself praying for him and speaking blessing over him for his bold proclamation of the truth of God’s word…

    I found insight and understanding coming to me and the Lord used it to really cement something for me that I’d never before had insight on…

    I watched it again after watching it the first time and received again…

    This has sparked a “mini-Revival” in my heart…

    Thank you watchful for posting this originally and to Andrew for re-posting it… 🙂

    Love in the Lord,


  71. Amen Lucinda Reppert, “Take up the Mantle of Your Calling Now”, There was real power when he said that and it released something for me, Love in the Lord, Andrew

  72. He did not present, preach or teach on the gospel of Jesus Christ. He briefly mentions the name of Jesus, but never speaks of Him being the Son of God. No mention of the Cross of Christ, the blood of Jesus, our needing a Savior, and forgivness provided only through Jesus.The message of the gospel is the message of Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Yes, he spoke of America’s sin, and our need to return to God, but he left out the true gospel message. He left out Jesus.

  73. antipas4yahshua Jan 30th 2013

    @Julie – wow that is a very good observation. When Paul presented to Felix in Acts 24:25
    “But as he was discussing righteousness, self-control and the judgment to come, Felix became frightened and said, “Go away for the present, and when I find time I will summon you.”
    This was is the original Kingdom message.

    Btw, I concur with the ‘America and Babylon’ @ is very insightful and spot on – it is worth listen to.
    Many thanks !!


  74. I agree with Jeff, Darren, Richard, and Julie 100%. Like Andrew, I was moved by the bold message of repentance, especially at the seat of power, but it was so nationalistic. And is abortion the only sin we can see?

  75. matthew Jan 30th 2013

    I thought this was excellent and very exciting that he had such a platform.I think people need to see the wood for the trees: his general point that America is going in a direction that has led and will lead to judgement is correct, and in fact, in simpler terms, the message of “The Harbinger” was preached by David Wilkerson, shortly after nine eleven. David Wilkerson did not get that by noticing all the details that Johnathan Cahn spotted, but just by direct revelation from God that America had been given a warning and call to repentance that was ignored, or at least only heeded very briefly.
    I cant quite remember the title of the David Wilkerson message, maybe someone can help me.
    I am writing from the UK and we are in a dreadful state over here. With gay marriage looking like going through, a very prominent “evangelical” figure has just pronounced that monogomous same sex relationships are fine. The church here is very weak and to be a bible believing christian puts you in a small and unpopular minority. I also feel that this nation could come under judgement and indeed, as we face a possible trible-dip recession following yet another bad quarter for GDP growth, maybe that is already happening.

  76. Mark Phillips Jan 30th 2013

    Just had a look at the salvation section of the site associated with Jonathan Cahn :

    Modern evangelism is 35 inches short of Messiah’s yardstick (Luke 14:25-35) ; today,a one inch,one minute “Sinner’s Prayer’ is portrayed as what is takes to be His ‘Christian’ (see Luke 14:25-35 and Acts 11:26 for true ‘Bible MATH’ : disciple = 36 inches = christian = 36 inches = disciple).

    Not read Andrew’s own book on this yet,but at long last,someone other than David Pawson seem to be drinking from the well known as ‘The Book of Acts.’

    Be lovely if Jonathan Cahn would feed on this book soon :

    I agree with J M ; who in his review says ‘…this [book] remains one of the most important books of the last 50 years.

  77. Matthew, i think this may be the one you are thinking of by David Wilkerson –

  78. Julie,

    I don’t think its politically correct to mention Jesus at these breakfasts as someone may be offended.

    You’ve made some very good points in your comments!

    Richard Savage,

    When the Bible mentions “all nations” concerning future judgements this includes “America”.


  79. matthew Jan 30th 2013

    Hi Ken, yes, that is the David Wilkerson message I had in mind, thanks for taking the trouble to put the link up. People might like to consider that at the same time as Joanthan Cahns “The Harbinger”. Jonathan Cahn was not initially aware of the David Wilkerson message, but in simpler terms it is saying something similiar.

    By the way, good to see someone recomending David Pawson on here: “Unlocking the Bible” is one of the best christian books I have read, based on his teaching on every book of the bible.

  80. Mark Phillips Jan 30th 2013

    (Side comment for Matthew : Have you read Pawson’s autobiography ? I regard Michael L Brown – – as one of the finest Bible teachers in America ; David Pawson – as one of the finest since the apostles ! If you haven’t got a copy,do get one :

    And by the way,the videos from which the UNLOCKING book was produced can all be seen for free on his website,or downloaded on MP3 ; the two on ‘Romans’ – in which Paul was looking to nip Replacement Theology in the bud – are a key watch.)

  81. Mark Phillips Jan 30th 2013

    And when it comes to salvation,perhaps even Andrew himself may not be aware that he has penned one of the most nourishing articles in the internet universe (!) :

  82. matthew Jan 30th 2013

    Hi Mark, yes, David Pawson is an outstanding bible teacher, one of the few really genuine preachers in the uk at present: We are locked into a deadly religious entertainment culture over here at present, that has produced an astonishing shallowness in our church meetings.
    Yes, I have got a copy of David Pawsons autobiograpy, which I am currently reading and enjoying. Strangely enough, the copy I have was a gift from David Pawson to my Dad, who met him last year on a journey back from Isreal, hit it off with him and he has since been for coffee and lunch. I have admired and beneffited from his books for years, so was very excited to hear about that. Dad tells me he comes across as a really nice man, great company and very approachable, humble and down to earth. After my Dad met him and they spent some time chatting, he immediately took his address and sent him a number of books, as a gift, no charge. When Dad told him I had borrowed the autobiogarphy, David Pawson immediately sent him a second copy as a gift so we could have one each. What a nice contrast to all the money grabbers out there, who prefer to fleece the sheep as much as possible!
    I will check out the American teacher you mention, Michael L Brown, I have not heard of him before.
    All the best, Matthew.

  83. Michael Forest Jan 30th 2013

    I wanted to shout and rejoice after the message, because finally someone is preaching the message of repentance that the Church and America needs to hear and obey. The message wasn’t perfect but I believe that it is the heart of God for our nation. There is an anointing on this word that was delivered at this prayer gathering.

  84. Matthew you are welcome.

  85. I listened to the message which is fine and i have no problem with what he said but surely what Jonathan Cahn is saying “goes without saying” as we have heard it all a million times before (and still no change) is this what is really wrong with Christianity today? OR is it, that the Church has totally failed to teach sound bibical doctrine to the new born Christians (who have just said a little prayer, Andrews term which i abhore) How does a new born babe grow if it is not fed? How do they grow if there is no one to feed them? How can they learn if they have not a teacher? As said Jonathan’s message is fine in it’s place but that seems to be all the so called pastor/teachers of today have to offer and this includes those who are bashing the problem. Those who are bashing the problem in the Church, have really nothing more to offer than those in the pulpits, other than to keep on bashing the Church and preaching foolishness. eg it is total foolishness to teach that we need to go back and relive the book of Acts, Apostels Prophets etc, whats wrong with Heb 1:1-2?

    Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

    1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

    Get into the epistels of Paul for doctrine/instruction to the Church today, Acts has little to offer as instruction (Not saying Paul wrote Heb)

    The book of Acts is a “mere” recording of what the Church “did then” NOT instruction/doctrine to the Church today. Yes there is some doctrine in the book of Acts but not a lot, as there is some doctrine in the four gospels but again not a lot, the most being in John and the least being in Matt (a very Jewish book)

    I conclude for now that those bashing the Church are as guilty as those in the pulpits (No sound biblical doctrine to offer to feed the new born babes) and that has been most of the problem. You attack the new born babes “who have just said a little prayer” but YOU are just as guilty as YOU have failed to feed them sound doctrine. The Mystery of the Church was revealed through Paul alone (Gal 1:11:12, 16-17)

    Here is a good teaching on the book of Roms, which i spent 7 1/2 months going through last year but i guess most wont take the trouble to do this, as it takes time, work/effort. Quick fix’s seem to be the order of the day, these days, just let someone else do the work.

  86. YES…………….JULIE and Cara, are both right as well.
    The message was a good wake up call.
    BUT HE should have spoken about the WAY OUT of the whole mess. One thing we aint hearing………… this big end time
    push of the gay movement. Which more and more churches are not only refusing to warning about………….THEY are standing UP FOR IT.
    WHile they say abortion is wrong…………………at the same time
    defend the gay lifestyle. AND this wont win one gay person to JESUS. SHALL we sin because we are under grace………
    GOD forbid. A wake up call. THE number ONE polled
    reason given that gays were not treated equal or seen as sinners was………….THE BIBLE. NOW…………….when this gets made
    LEGAL………………..WHAT comes next…………..?
    the supreme court rules by JUNE. and the way this country and WORLD are headed…………..
    Obama leads the way in america for gays , he has EVOLVED
    or so he said………WHICH is a NEW AGE TERM.
    So many think he is muslim. HE aint…………..he is whatever
    he is preaching to…………..sensitive to every cause…….
    BUT the truth of the BIBLE. Obama openly said he was christain, but at the same TIME said…………JESUS aint the ONLY WAY.
    HE IS NeW AGE………….Oprah says this.liberal media is spreading this. and no marvel, they are owned by GEORGE SORROS………….who believes he is the collective CONSCIOUS of the world. NEW AGE. YALL new age is gaining the ground.
    leading so many into a focus of world peace and unity and all raods lead. ALL about the COLLECTIVE WHOLE
    as they await the coming of the ONE who will lead the world into peace, safety and unity. The new age, many buddists, the all roads lead, and others……………ARE starting to speak of the collective conscious, and when it reaches peak………..they say
    a MAN will arise………….or the CHRIST of all, and will lead the world into peace ………….THAT will be SON of perditoin.
    We NEED warners…………….and encouagers………
    Take note. some christains are claiming to have seen the virgin mary…………and she is telling them No need to evangelize
    to focus on peace and unity………..some buddists are prophesying the same things in their own religion. The POINT
    is many are being led into this world peace and interfaith dialgouge, into the MOTHER of all FALSE religions, which includes all, even atheist, secluar at its root………
    NOTICE new age calls GOD a FORCE…………..THEN GO READ DANIEL………………..the dark one exalts himself above all gods
    but honors a GOD of FORCES…………..and too destroys many through peace. TAKE NOTE………..HE DIVIDES the LAND for gain as well. DIVIDES the LAND……………DIVIDES the land.
    BECAUSE all for peace and unity………….THE PLAN is to DIVIDE the land of JERUSALEM for GAIN. WE AT THE END
    and few have eyes to SEE the MANY signs.
    GO BACK TO ONLY BIBLE READING. and PRAY and win souls.

  87. Something aint RIGHT ……….
    EVERYTHING was GOOD………………the people were hearing
    this man…………..BUT THEN at the END
    WHEN he actually DID preach about JESUS being the ONLY NAME, the ONLY WAY……………I SWEAR i heard boos………
    Maybe i was hearing things…………..BUT i DONT think so.
    THAT is the problem with THIS evil nation
    WE want A WAY OUT………………….BUT tis in MEN
    NOT in the ONLY NAME which can SAVE US………
    nationalism versus TRUE christainity.
    CORRECT me if i am WRONG……………BUT I SWORE
    when he GOT LIT ON FIRE……..
    It was lIKE cheering picked up…………..BUT THEN
    when he started to give the name of yashua, or JESUS and said
    HE IS THE ONLY WAY……………….i HEARD BOOS……………
    GO to about thirty one minutes in……….and listen to it again.
    SEE what yall see or hear. NEW age has gained much ground here in america and WORLDWIDE. I was HAPPY to HEAR HE SAID there is no other name or way we can be saved.
    This man DID his job. And all the while many cheered him…..
    BUT then when he goes on about saying JESUS is only way..
    i hear boos start sneaking in. MAYBE if he had said………LETS pick up guns and defend ourselves. the CHEERS may have remained.OR GOTTEN MUCH LOUDER TIS a sad, evil generatoin. Here i will add to waht he said…………..JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY and the ONLY name whereby we are saved. THUS take up no guns………ONLY HIM.
    and pray for all, even our enemies…………..AMEN.

  88. The Bible says hardin not your hearts as in the provocations (The Word of truth) Amen, Amen, Amen. Every American needs to hear this truth and the truth will set them free and open the eyes of the blind that they may see our destiny if we fail to recieve this warning. God will use the simple things to confound the wise, such as an inaugural prayer breakfast speaker, not known to most to bring light to a darken America. Where are the Paul Revere of America echoing (judgement is coming, Judgement is coming) we must all communicate this warning given us, if we love and honor our God and Father and if we Love America and the blessing that was given Her . God said I will bless those that bless thee. compromise is not the answer, to know right and do it not is sin, God said I will recompense or repay those. Judgement is mine saith the Lord, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. His power wrath is against all them that forsake Him. Ezar 8:22

  89. David Marsh Jan 30th 2013

    “I can recommend David Marsh’s reappraisal of the New Testament Church – his analysis is superb and he leaves us to draw the conclusions.

    I’ll mail David for permission to post his email address here for a download pdf.”

    Thank you Terry for your comments. If any one else would like a copy of this work, my email address is [email protected]

    To comment on Jonathon’s delivery, it is indeed a bold proclamation of warning and repentance to the United States of America.
    His boldness, is indeed, inspirational.

    The question is Andrew, is the Lord calling on Christians now to begin warning and repentance preaching to the unsaved? I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

    Kind regards

    David Marsh.

  90. matthew Jan 30th 2013

    Just a question with regard to the above from David; Has there ever been a time when God hasn’t called us to “warning and repentance preaching to the unsaved”? Not being flippant,but I can’t think of such a time. The gospel itself requires warning and a call to repentance.

  91. MICHAEL MADIGAN Jan 30th 2013

    The scriptures are clear regarding the Prophets call to turn the nation back to God. The Lord is allways faithfull to send His watchman ,His Prophets .I tell you the truth that judgement will com swifter after the warning if it not headed .All indicators are we are on a path ,not an ancient path ,but a path that will lead to ultimate detruction .God is so good ,He allways will try to steer a people back to Himself .40 years of abortion ,40 being the nuber of testing ,trial and ultimate judgement .All the peices are clear to discern ,and all I can say is a remnant will come out of a comprimised church ,He allways has a remnant.This remnant shall link up with their older brother ,a Jewish remnant as the day aproaches.As the day draws near the hardest thing to witness will be the great falling away ,the apostates ,this will be hard,but neccessary as the scriptures declare .My question for years has been where are the watchman?Who is raising their voice with a platform to do so? The day is here ,the hour is late and I left to say just one thing “see you in Jerusalem ” amen

  92. Should not someone check out whether the “Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast” was an event put on by the presidential inaugural committee? There seems to be no reference to it from official presidential sources, rather, it seems to have been an event put on by political opponents of Obama. Is calling this a “Presidential” sponsored event itself deceptive? How can you call for truth when your whole platform is a lie?

  93. In reference to Michael, the prophets of old and the prophetic function has always been to warn the Church, to call God’s people/the nation of God/Israel/the Kingdom citizens to repent (to turn back to some previous state).

    But the prophets are not meant to repentance to those who have never believed nor currently believe because they have never entered into the Kingdom. They have not lost their first love because they NEVER loved the Lord will ALL their heart in the first place.

    However, there is a place for one to proclaim the Gospel (to reveal the Son and His Kingdom) to people of ALL nations (all ethnic groups) and to take them from darkness to Light. Paul preached very different to Gentiles who knew not God than to those who knew of Him but had disregarded the Lord.

  94. To the reference about Paul taking a vow and agreeing to show those of the Circumcision, I believe we can see that Paul gave into pressure – he went against the very core of the Gospel of Christ as THE fulfillment of all of the OT types and shadows. And as a result, the subsequent uprising. Peter was not the only Apostle who needed correction. Paul learned a valuable lesson. The mistake we can make is to assume that all that takes place in Acts is righteous when it is merely an account of the good and bad done.

    They were learning.

  95. Robert Jan 31st 2013


  96. Robert Jan 31st 2013


    I just found out that I am on line. You are correct, and after I post this, you I will probably be blocked.

    This inaugural breakfast was not the OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL BREAKFAST.

    They HAVE MANY < MANY, breakfasts that are sponsored by all sorts of folks.

    If you people ;would search it out, you will find out that this is NOT THE OFFICIAL ONE.

    This one is sponsored by a HUGE dominionist Group of Republicans .

    People like Sara Palin, Michelle Bauchman, Mike Huckabee, Pat Robertson, James Robson, I HOP , Mike Bickle and so many others that are involved.

    Think about it. — Prez/ Obama doesn't particularly place Israel and Jewish folks up front and personal w/ him.

    Matter of fact, he congratulated Chavez, w/in 24 hours of winning, but w/ P.M. Net. (Israel) it took him a week.

    Why in the world would he have someone come in and speak at "his" inaugraual breakfast "

    There is NO SEAL of authenticity from the president.
    and in 2009 it was JIM WALLIS that was the keynote speaker of THE OFFICIAL BREAKFAST

    Jim Wallis is known for bringing the Emergent Church to where it is now, by forumulating many folks like Leonnard Sweet, Mark Driscol and others up front.

    PLEASE do your homework.


    But he is in dominion theology and he has been anointed by "Cindy Jacobs" and Peter Wagner and Dutch Sheets, and he will not correct people when they call him a "prophet" WHO really knows if he is a true prophet. People seem to throw that word around an awful lot.

    I am not disputing the fact that he gave a BOLD speech, BUT ANYONE CAN give one. YOU need to check the resources and people out. PLEASE.

    Some of you are being too enthusiastic over a "good speech" YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE PEOPLE OUT.

    I have pasted and copied this and I have sent it on to other websites. (Just in case I get deleted)

    Please take this as a warning.

  97. Robert Jan 31st 2013

    Don’t you all find it funny that none of the MEDIA’S and NEWS PAPERS posted this on Johnathon Cahn? All I am finding is u tubes and religious websites.

    If you can find an AMERICAN NEWSPAPER like NEW YORK TIMES or HUFFINGTON POST , Washington Post, have an article or video of this , please post it. Other wise this has come from only religious websites .

  98. Robert Jan 31st 2013

    Please read this on the 61st Official Prayer breakfast.

    Now for the one that Jonathon Cahn spoke at,

    Look at who all attended. These are folks from TBN and other republican people.

    This is part of the dominon theology agenda. Bring in big folks to come and speak and get everyone on board about “praying for and repenting for America.

    But didn’t any of you notice that none of them were on their knees repenting of their own sins???

    Come on folks, Why repent for America , when we have to first repent for our own ways.

    There were no people crying, no one humbling themselves, no one truly saying that Jesus Christ was the ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN and that HE and ONLY HE should get recognition. NOT the man that is giving the speech.

    did Cahn truly humble himself? I mean really truly?
    or did he give a lot of history and did it point ONLY TO JESUS our Lord and Savior?

  99. Robert Jan 31st 2013



    IT IS BY A MINISTRY. READ THAT THEY HAD “PERSONAL MEDIA ” NOT media from the real outside world media.

    This was a private breakfast of many folks that were not for Obama and their only mission is to PRAY FOR AMERICA and HAVE REVIVAL and it is dominion folks

    If you are unformilar w/ their approach. Study up.

    it is the old “Joels’ Army” but w/ the “now ministries”



    ATTENTION~ Info/update on Message given at Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast
    by The Harbinger Jonathan Cahn (Official Site) on Monday, January 28, 2013 at 1:35pm ·

    This is Hope of the World ministries – It’s our aim that this critical

    word – A Message To America – that Jonathan Cahn delivered at The

    Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast go forth and be spread as far

    as possible – We know that this is your aim as well. Unfortunately,

    for now, we had to take down our posting from our own site since we

    were informed that there were legal contractual stipulations between

    the organizer of the event and the media company filming the event. We

    don’t one anyone posting it to be legally liable or for there to be

    any legal repercussions for anyone, which could also result in the

    message being legally impounded and never coming out. Thus if it’s

    been posted, we’ve been told that it needs to be taken down. We also

    don’t want the presidential seal linked to it which was mistakenly

    joined. We are confident that the media company working on this is

    committed to getting the message out as widely as possible – through

    television, DVD, the web, all over –They also have the full version of

    the message and what happened before and the explosion in the Spirit

    that happened at the end – In addition they did their own filming with

    a fully professional team and so will have the fullest and best

    version of the speech which then can be used in any format, from

    individual use to church services, etc – They will be working as fast

    as possible to make that happen that it can go forth and be available

    in the widest possible way – but for that to happen we have to do all

    things in order – So in order to get the word out, we all have to take

    it down at least for now. As soon as we hear any news we will seek to

    let everyone know. Pray it can be released and go forth as soon as

    possible! Thank you for your help. And God bless you! Hope of the


  100. My first impression was Jonathan had some fire in his belly, then i noted he was reading from a prepared script!?
    Do God’s anointed preachers need to read a prepared document? I think not for:-
    Did John the Baptist? no. Jesus? no, Peter? no. Paul? no.
    The young men i know can, without notice, draw a scripture from a hat, then preach quoting scripture as they go. And the listeners will be on the edge of their chairs.
    Why? Because they are spirit filled (evidenced by tongues) have a fire in their belly for the Lord. They open their mouths and as the Lord promised, He fills it – “….do not meditate in you mind what you will say for I have given you a mouth and wisdom…….”
    Does this mean they have not prepared? No! I know a man who received the Holy Sprit on June the sixth 1965 and began preaching about two years later, the preparation for his next “talk” began in June 1965.
    Here are three of the most important “can’t do with outs” (the desire to preach goes without saying.)
    Reading the Word (the milk)
    Putting it into action by love and faith (the meat) “ my meat is to do the will of Him who sent me”
    A prayer life in the “closet” Jesus spoke of. – The “secret place of the most High” (psm 91) on our knees praying in the Spirit (tongues) building ourselves up in the most Holy Faith. The Holy Spirit in us, searching our hearts and praying for the things HE ONLY knows we need.
    Then we have HIS WORD written on the fleshy table of our heart. If we open our mouth He has promised to fill it. And the “river of living water” will flow from our innermost being !!
    Oh that our young men would desert man’s “college of knowledge” and sit at the feet of Jesus, the Holy Ghost burning in their hearts. Such men have been sent, down the centuries. I believe we need them today more than ever!

    Isaiah chapter two tells all we need to know, note verse 6 and then ask at your local hardware store if they have any stock not made in China!
    In Oz can you believe we are importing food from China?
    Note verse 7. When we were young we called our cars “chariots” – all the horses were under the bonnet – in some cases hundreds of them. Western society has dug metaphorical holes and caves of modernism, materialism mysticism, new age stuff, in trying to hide from God and Gospel Truth. The “mountains an hills” are the governments, rulers, bureaucrats etc. and yes -Churches, that, as Isaiah saw have bowed to idols “the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not.” – I could go on.
    Isaiah had a vision Of Western society and USA in particular and gives us the warning.
    “Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?”
    Pr Michael

  101. gloria goold Jan 31st 2013

    I believe the trumpet is sounding, I believe as you said Andrew , and I also believe that we are about to see messages on the rise much like this and more bold than this.

  102. Robert Jan 31st 2013

    If you will read the last thing I posted , a group, A religious group posted on face book the following

    AND it states that the “SEAL” of the president SHOULD NOT BE ON THERE. In other words this is NOT the OFFICIAL INAUGERAL breakfast. It was one of many, and the sponsors of this is NOT from the WHITE HOUSE.




  103. Robert Jan 31st 2013



    ATTENTION~ Info/update on Message given at Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast
    by The Harbinger Jonathan Cahn (Official Site) on Monday, January 28, 2013 at 1:35pm ·

    This is Hope of the World ministries – It’s our aim that this critical

    word – A Message To America – that Jonathan Cahn delivered at The

    Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast go forth and be spread as far

    as possible – We know that this is your aim as well. Unfortunately,

    for now, we had to take down our posting from our own site since we

    were informed that there were legal contractual stipulations between

    the organizer of the event and the media company filming the event. We

    don’t one anyone posting it to be legally liable or for there to be

    any legal repercussions for anyone, which could also result in the

    message being legally impounded and never coming out. Thus if it’s

    been posted, we’ve been told that it needs to be taken down. We also

    don’t want the presidential seal linked to it which was mistakenly

    joined. We are confident that the media company working on this is

    committed to getting the message out as widely as possible – through

    television, DVD, the web, all over –They also have the full version of

    the message and what happened before and the explosion in the Spirit

    that happened at the end – In addition they did their own filming with

    a fully professional team and so will have the fullest and best

    version of the speech which then can be used in any format, from

    individual use to church services, etc – They will be working as fast

    as possible to make that happen that it can go forth and be available

    in the widest possible way – but for that to happen we have to do all

    things in order – So in order to get the word out, we all have to take

    it down at least for now. As soon as we hear any news we will seek to

    let everyone know. Pray it can be released and go forth as soon as

    possible! Thank you for your help. And God bless you! Hope of the


  104. Andrew Jan 31st 2013

    Hmm. Sad that it was not the “official” one. I had no idea.

    Very sad


  105. Andrew Jan 31st 2013

    Robert – well observed. How amazing that they use the “Presidential Seal” on this video when it was NOT a truly “official” Presidential event! How can they get away with that?

    I am amazed.

    This video will be taken off our site soon. In the meantime I have changed the heading and title of it.

    Bless you!


  106. harvestistipe Jan 31st 2013

    Andrew you might want to wait a day, before you take it down I am making a phone call tomorrow to one of our Senators to check this out. I also just again today was sent another e-mail to the video and this is on a couple of other webb sites.

    Whatever you decide, I will let you know what I find out tomorrow.

  107. harvestistipe Jan 31st 2013

    Ok Robert I now see what you are saying, the two links you presented show two differant locations so each event happened at seperate locations, two differant events.I think seems a lot of people got this wrong a couple places even announcing Johnathan Cains invite prior to the event.
    Thanksfor the heads up.

  108. watchful Jan 31st 2013

    Oh so disappointing! This puts an entirely different light on this preaching and not the bold and courageous thing it had seemed, nor divinely appointed as I had taken it to be. I do not agree with the Messianic Judaism concept and especially not judaizing in general but had just thought if God can even speak through a donkey who am I to criticize who He speaks through at the Inaugural Presidential Prayer Breakfast, which it turns out not even to be! Had just assumed this man had attracted attention and been invited because of his book. I think he needs to come out and clarify the misunderstanding, it is very deceptive!

    I apologize Andrew for posting this here, and now on my knees to the Father to seek what lessons I need to learn. Sorry, sorry!

  109. I’m leary of new doctrines people are trying to force on everyone.

    The Bible is what we need in this hour it is a light unto our paths and a lamp unto our feet.

    Be careful when someone is always wanting to share their new doctrines. If it cannot be found in the scriptures in the mouth of two or three witnesses then it is more likely not of the Lord.

  110. This comment above is not referring to this article here, but I am speaking of some of these people who comment on this board who always want to send everyone their new revelation.

    I recently received one of these pdf files that is full of errors and does not line up with God’s Word.

    Just be careful what you read and hear.

  111. Amen, GaryB. There was a very unified voice and belief up until Constantine (c 300AD). But because for sometime now Christians have grown discontented with this and we have been willing to “spit out the bones” just to get something semi-nutritional in the Spirit, known as “compromise”, we have now sought after and bought into the notion that the Lord is doing a “new thing”.

    Let it be known that The Lord has spoken to us these last days through His Son, Jesus the Christ, and that the revelation of the Father through Him, the sending of His Spirit at Pentecost, and they obligation to believe and obey Jesus (“This is My Son, in whom I’m well pleased… HEAR HIM”) is the “New Thing” that God has done and is still doing. We need not be progressive, rather regressive… turn back (repent) to obey His original teachings, and then to teach others to do likewise. It’s called a change of allegiance.

  112. There is no mistake this was the prayer breakfast. Its in the capital record and you can varify the hotel.
    Just look up capital records.
    You should do more research before you spread news. Took me less thn 2 mins.

  113. Robert Feb 1st 2013


    It was and it was during the inugural on the 21st. of Jan.

    WHAT IT WASN”T was OFFICIAL and Presidential one that the White HOUSE has.

    These are people of faith that came in and did this .

    And yes, MUCH research was made before I posted all of the above.

    And to still have the video on, w/o approval from the Media group that made this (which by the way, they were hired by the Cahn Ministries/) then it puts Andrew in risk.

    Also please take a look at this.”

    ANd you all can debate all day and all night, I could care less. Truth is truth, I came out of the New Age world and there is so much mysticism in this book along w/ numerology, (which is occult)

    By the way, at the end of J. Cahn’s bold speech where he talks about Jesus Christ — that came STRAIGHT OUT OF HIS BOOK . WORD FOR WORD!!!!!!!


    By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Jan 31, 2013 in AM Missives, Current Issues, Features


    Here at Apprising Ministries I do my best to monitor Intel along this Internet Front and report back what I’m seeing as an assist to local pastors bombarded with all kinds of things and who just don’t have this kind of time. There’s no shortage of spiritual shenanigans going on right now.

    Along that line, you may know that a book quite likely to have been brought into their congregations and/or discussed among congregants was The Harbinger (TH), written by Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, “Messianic Rabbi of the the Jerusalem Center/ Beth Israel in Wayne, New Jersey.”1

    I’ve covered Cahn and his TH before, so I’ll just refer the interested reader to The Harbinger: Prophetic Fact Or Fickle Fiction? Here I’ll simply share again that, in my opinion, the best critique of TH was done by David James, executive director of The Alliance of Biblical Integrity.

    James’ dead-on-target review of TH was called The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? In fact, it was actually an abridged version of a book that has now come forth, it’s also entitled The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? Which brings us to the matter at hand concerning Dave James and his book.

    I point you now to The ABI Report: Threatened Lawsuit by The Harbinger Publisher & Author where James informs us:

    We have received letters threatening legal action related to the publication of my book The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? These letters were from a lawyer with a firm which “serves as litigation counsel for Charisma Media, publisher of The Harbinger by Rabbi Jonathan Cahn and published by Charisma Media.”

    Therefore, we are asking that concerned believers everywhere make this a matter of prayer—that the Lord would graciously give us wisdom and that He would protect us in the midst of this challenge. We also believe it is important to bring this matter to the attention of the Body of Christ and would encourage you to share this article with others given the millions of people who have now been influenced by The Harbinger and its author. (source, bold his)

    The fact is, Jonathan Cahn and his speculations presented as prophecy in TH have also been the source of a growing friction even within the camp of online apologetics and discernment ministries as I showed you a while back in Jonathan Cahn Harbinger Of Discernment Gone Wild?

    Using the metaphor of someone standing under the heavy shade of a tree toward the back of the shadows it casts, I’ve said in other pieces on this issue that Jonathan Cahn struck me as a “shady” character. For example, I’ve seen many interviews where his work is said to be “a prophetic word” while he’s called “a prophet.”

    Cahn remains silent; neither agreeing with, or correcting, the comment. To me, this somewhat obscures his real motivation for TH, which then serves to keep this work mostly hidden in the shadows. By not responding to the interviewers one way or the other Jonathan Cahn can then claim he personally never said he was a prophet, etc.

    In Apprising Ministries pieces like Jim Bakker’s Homage To Jonathan Cahn Who Says He’s Blessed By Bakker’s Mentoring I pointed out that this kind of thing gives reason to doubt Cahn’s a prophet of God. Are we seriously supposed to believe that God Launched The Harbinger Book Using Jim Bakker?

    Jonathan Cahn says so; but Bakker is a spiritual wingnut who’s so far into spiritual outer space that we can’t even get a radar fix on him. Be that as it may, we now wonder if “prophet” Rabbi Cahn is familiar with this from the God he’s supposed to be speaking for:

    When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life!

    So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers?

    To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? But you yourselves wrong and defraud—even your own brothers! (1 Corinthians 6:1-8)

    Against this necessary backdrop we can now return to Dave James, who shares with us more detail concerning the threat of legal action by Steve Strang, “founder and president of Charisma Media,”2 and Jonathan Cahn:

    The following is an excerpt from the lead article by T.A. McMahon in the February edition of The Berean Call monthly newsletter.

    Although for decades we at TBC have been exhorting and encouraging believers to be Bereans (i.e., to check out everything they are being taught by searching the Scriptures-Acts 17:10-11), we too have experienced the increased intensity of the spiritual battle and witnessed its exponential growth. The latest issue, which we submit to you for prayer support, is a threatened lawsuit over the book we published by David James (The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction?). The complaint is that the author used too many quotes from the New York Times best-selling book, The Harbinger, without permission from author “rabbi” Jonathan Cahn and publisher Charisma Media Publications (CMP). The complaint further states that our use of the quotes has inhibited the sales of The Harbinger and has thus financially damaged Cahn and CMP in an amount yet to be determined. In effect, we are being told that we must limit our documentation in warning the body of Christ of the biblical errors in The Harbinger. In other words, we cannot be Bereans or like the watchman of Ezekiel 3:17-19 without Cahn’s permission.

    This is the first time in my 35 years of working with Dave Hunt and our addressing nearly every major religion, religious cult, aberrational Christian sect, unbiblical trend, religious publication, book, media production, etc., that any organization or individual has even hinted at suing us. Now, however, we are being threatened with legal action by those claiming to be in the church. More critical than the unbiblical action of a brother threatening to take another brother to court (1 Corinthians 6) is the issue of preventing the biblical evaluation of a work that is influencing hundreds of thousands of professing and confessing Christians, as well as those who don’t profess to know Christ. We have hired a copyright attorney to address the legal issues and have responded to the attorney for Cahn and CMP. Even so, we covet your prayers that the Lord will be glorified throughout the process.

    In October we received the first letter from Charisma’s lawyer concerning my use of quotes from The Harbinger. This threat of litigation was followed by two additional letters about a month apart making various demands for specific information concerning sales of my book and actions that we must take, including specific deadlines for compliance. So, although this is the first time we have made this issue public in writing, we have had these threats hanging over our heads for several months.

    Furthermore, the October letter was actually the second threat of legal action. The first threat came less than two weeks after my book became available in early August and concerned the original cover design of The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? In that first letter the attorney made the following charges:

    Our client learned that you, along with author David James, are using a strikingly similar book cover design of The Harbinger in commerce in connection with your book The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction. The book cover of The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction infringes Charisma’s intellectual property rights in the trade dress of its book The Harbinger. No doubt exists that the cover for your book The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction is designed to confuse consumers into thinking that either (1) this book is actually The Harbinger and/or (2) that the book is sponsored, affiliated with or approved by Charisma.

    The basis for the threat of legal action involves two primary points: 1) that we intended to confuse consumers and 2) that consumers would actually be confused. Regarding the first charge, it is pure speculation with no supporting evidence whatsoever. But more importantly, it is both judgmental and factually wrong. There was never any intention by anyone to deceive, mislead of confuse. A comparison of the two covers (shown below) makes this obvious.

    Regarding the second charge, once again, even a cursory glance makes it clear that my book is a direct negative response to The Harbinger, and therefore, obviously neither produced by nor endorsed by Charisma Media. Of course, we wanted people to understand that my book is about The Harbinger, but almost every design element of my cover was intentionally different to avoid any question of copyright infringement.

    However, as a demonstration of good faith we changed the cover without a fuss. Of course, because of our belief that it is vitally important for my book to be available as a response to The Harbinger,and given the threat, we were also concerned that the Charisma lawyers might try to tie things up in the courts and thus keep my book off the market.

    Now, in an unexpected and inexplicable turn of events, the Charisma attorney claims in the most recent letter (of January 22) that the fact that we changed the cover is itself an admission of guilt on my part that we had indeed infringed copyright.

    Mr. James eventually recognized that he had violated Charisma’s trade dress and changed the cover on his critique. That Mr. James infringed Charisma’s rights in its intellectual property with respect to the cover is without dispute. Yet, Mr. James’ admitted infringement is curiously absent from his recent diatribe against my client and its author. (source)

    James then includes pictures of the cover of TH, the original cover of The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction?, as well as the new one, which is pictured in this post above. However, as Dave James points out:

    Once again, this is not only pure speculation, but the allegation is factually wrong because neither I nor The Berean Call have ever believed that we ever violated Charisma’s trade dress. We did not intend to violate copyright. We intentionally sought to avoid violating copyright. And we continue to believe that we were completely successful in not violating copyright. So, the charge that we admitted guilt in this matter is difficult to comprehend – even baffling.

    Another odd aspect of this recent letter is that the Charisma lawyer attributed to me the article which was written by T.A. McMahon (referenced above), and called it a “diatribe against Charisma and Jonathan Cahn.” Earlier the letter also states that the article was published on my website—which is also wrong because the article is actually on The Berean Call website. Besides being a bit strange, these are unnecessary “unforced errors” that could have been easily avoided with even the least bit of research. (source)

    One would certainly hope that before threatening any kind of legal action Steve Strang et al would at least make the time to get their facts straight. In any event, Apprising Ministries is pleased to come alongside our brother Dave James; and we also encourage you to join us in prayer for this sad situation.

    In conclusion, James reminds us why this is so important:

    One thing we do know is that my book is presently the only one that has been written and published which exposes the many significant problems in The Harbinger. And as the influence of The Harbingerin America continues to increase, the need for people to also read The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? is greater than ever. We hope you will take time to read it if you haven’t – and if you do, please take time to leave a brief review on because these are extremely important in the process of getting the message into the hands of more and more people.

    Once again, we covet your prayers, not only in relation to the threatened legal action against us, but also concerning getting the important information in my book into the hands of believers who have been influenced, confused and misled by The Harbinger, the accompanying DVD and the dozens of interviews and messages by Jonathan Cahn.

    If you want to stand with us in the midst of this challenge, please take a moment to shoot me an email at [email protected]. (source)

    You can read Dave James’s post in its entirety right here.
    Further reading



  114. Andrew Feb 1st 2013

    I have looked up info on this “Prayer Breakfast”

    There are 2 others that are the more “official” ones.

    This one is a more recent “Christian Conservative” event.

    Bless you!

    Andrew Strom

  115. Sharon Zook Feb 1st 2013

    One of the endtime deceptions in the church and the world will be this. Christians who bite and devour and test ever single word that comes out of the mouth of any minister or ministry will be bitten, tested and devoured by self deception. There is no unity in most churches because the people do not cover one another in love even when they do stray from the truth. Most Christians just judge and beat their brothers and sisters up with their mouths, but never cry out for them with the heart of love Jesus has given. Christian’s who live like this become skeptical, untrusting, unloving and most of all they themselves are prime targets for deception. Why? Because they themselves are so afraid of error and they are always thinking they must always be on guard. This leaves them fearing men and their doctrines rather than trusting God’s word for themselves. Their love for others grows cold and their focus turns to issues, rights and wrongs rather than to the love and power of God to deliver. Instead of being the gentle teacher full of grace and truth, they become critical judges of every perceived error. All the long the body of Christ grows colder and colder and more divided. One side sinning and calling it grace and the other side sinning by judging and calling it righteous. Each side is disobeying the commandment of the Lord Jesus Christ to love one another.
    Am I saying that all judgment is wrong? No but if there is no love and no restoration than judgment is nothing more than a hot air explosion that vomits fleshly legalisms onto those who are already sinning. It adds nothing to the cause of salvation and only produces more rebellion. The only thing that will keep us from the day of deception is to be found abiding in the love of Christ, fulling trusting in Him, keeping His word hidden in our hearts, praying without ceasing and doing the works that He called us to do. Now abide faith, hope and love, these three but the greatest of these is love. If the greatest part of your relationship with God and man is taken you will be deceived and shipwrecked. Be careful what you tear down or tear apart because it could be tearing you apart too.
    Endless arguments, nit-picking, analyzing and interpreting are signs that you have lost your first love and have strayed from the truth of His love and are depending on the law. The Jewish leaders use to call this “dancing with the devil.”

  116. Listened to him again and decided Jonathan is
    ” ‘Big wind.. Much lightning. Loud thunder. No rain!'”

    Any unregenerate man should be able to list the sins of America today plus most other countries for that matter,
    that is all the Rabbi does well,. and he mostly read it off pre-written text!
    Do we not know them all ready?
    Is that such a great revelation for us ?
    Isaiah says ” in 1 5
    “From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.” Stronger words than the Rabbi.

    Timothy says ” we are in the last days – dangerous times”
    Jesus says “no flesh left alive unless I shorten those days..”
    Pr Michael

  117. Richard Savage Feb 1st 2013

    The confusion regarding this video, and indeed Rabbi Kahn, for which no blame whatsoever attaches to Andrew, points up a weakness in our Christian systems and thought. Indeed, in our Christian lives.

    It would seem so many lean on others for enlightenment as to the will of God, Bible teaching, news about judgement etc., when God said through Jeremiah, drink water from your own cisterns! Simply, we don’t need highly paid headline preachers/teachers, just our God and His Book. We seem more likely to pay heed to these headliners than the local Godly man, anointed of the Holy Spirit, to say a word to us.

    It would appear to this out of church man so few, if any, high buck headliners have a message directly from the mind of God; instead, they perpetuate and grow a speaker dependent, text based religious system. Jesus quote the Scriptures by saying, It is written. Paul says, Someone has written.

    Learn all the Bible, and throw away the proof texts – they prove nothing.

    But this demands a thorough knowledge of the Bible, thereby gaining a knowledge of the mind of God. With an anointing of the Holy Spirit who teaches us all things, what need have we of headline speakers? Truth is in us, all truth, a verifiable truth.

    Let’s not call them preachers, that is another matter entirely. These are professional religionists with an agenda quite other to that which we expect and believe.

    I say again, Bless Rabbi Kahn, but keep him a very long way from me.

  118. watchful Feb 1st 2013

    We were deceived to think this was a display of Holy Ghost boldness and courage to speak in front of Washington liberals and politicians when in fact it was only preaching to the choir. After a little belated searching I saw a picture of Jonathan Cahn on the stage with someone dressed in a George Washington costume, who I understand was a Freemason (!?), and it helped open to my eyes that this was a carnal nationalistic thing, a mixture of politics and religion, and not a pure gospel. It is so sad that so many Jews have come to believe in Jesus only to fall into fleshly religion and falling short of the heavenly New Jerusalem, and I pray for their deliverance even as I pray for my own deliverance from deceiving spirits.

    It makes me tremble to see that there are so few who will be kept from the hour of trial, and was grateful for Randall’s encouragement of the Father’s loving intentions for us through it all.

  119. I have been listening to Mr Kahn for several years now. And I think those of you that just watch this and form an opinion arein as much danger of doing what you profess he is doing, taking things out of context. The Lord did show him many details, some of which are so mind blowing not even a human could make it up. He was shown things that happened in America to the detail that can mimic Isaiah 9:10 today. If you choose to judge the man and ignore the witness the Lord have him to share then you could miss out on truths. David if in todays times would have been cursed at for what stupid man/flesh things he did. How about Moses who let his pride get int he way, he would have been judged by you all saying “look what he did..bla bla bla”. I mean it was a big enough deal he was not allowed in the promised land by God. How about all the fleshly things the disciples did before and after. Would you have judged their mistakes and turned away from the message they were sharing. Watch the 9 videos from the YEARS of insight the Lord had given Kahn before you throw out the message with the bath water. Lets face it, most of you are upset because him speaking at the white house breakfast hold weight with you and when you found out he did not it upset you. Why? A message given in the streets or in the palace is still a message! Maybe it happened this way because it was the ONLY way YOU would have received the message. Because the Lord knew you would hold more value to WHITE HOUSE prayer message and choose to watch and also share. Who knows who got this message that needed an waking up. check out the truth, all the truth, then decide

  120. harvestistipe Feb 1st 2013

    Concerning Jonathan cain IGAUGURAL PRAYER BREAKFAST here is a clip on his web site posted Prior to the breakfast,I am not so sure he came to deceive anyone as stated, I am not so sure he is particualary caring where he spreads his message, rather taking the open doors to call America to repentance.

    I also am looking at the fruit. outside the box, I am hearing of repentance and hearts pierced from his messag on other sites. If God can use a donkey, he can use this message even in an inperfect vessel, he did with Nevenith.

    I will stand on the side of the message, not the messanger, putting my focus on the heart of the father I personally know it has some looking even more closely at their hearts and their ways. in this I know the Father is pleased for he is looking to and fro for a renewing of ones heart with deep repentance in this late hour.

    on his site.

    SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT PLEASE READ!! Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast.

    by The Harbinger Jonathan Cahn (Official Site) on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 at 12:10pm ·…


    On the morning of the Presidential Inauguration will be held the Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast. This is sponsored not by the government, but by believers. It is attended by various Senators, Members of Congress, Christian leaders, pastors, and believers, praying for the nation and the nations’ future.

    ((MY Comment: I would say they were many there whom needed to hear this piercing message is it not the church who needs revival.))

    In view of the nation’s direction, this gathering for prayer is all the more crucial – and with theme “If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their evil ways, I will hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land.”

  121. harvestistipe Feb 1st 2013

    Correction “Jonathan Cahn”

  122. harvestistipe Feb 1st 2013

    The word says we are to Test all things by the word of God, and we are to be led of the Holy Spirit.
    I believe if we do exactly what the word tells us to do here concerning what we encounter each day, we will not be led astray.

    The word is right on,- the messanger needs our prayers. I do not believe he deceived us it is the potographers who put the presidents seal on the video, maby because of it being an Ignaugration breakfast I don’t know, I do know they were asked to take the video down,

    If anyone knows our politics here in Washington there is a Ignaurgal Prayer Breakfast put on by christian leaders ever year
    .So again I do not believe this was an attempt to deceive anyone. The invitation was seperate form the Whitehouse a differant address and it was stated on Johanathan Cahn’s web site it was not the government putting this on prior to the event.

    We fo need to pray he not get caught up into the apostate christian leaders of the NAR. Dominion Theology as a couple here have stated they have prayed over him they are leaches I have seen it with my own eyes, that go after these annointed men and woman of God and for their own self gain

    I must also caution we not look for a prophet, nor follow any man nor manifestation, but to follow Jesus and the Leading of the Holy Spirit.
    When we put to much idolatry on man we will become self deceived. I know I have been there, and by the chastisement and intervention of God himself I was spared.

  123. Matthew Feb 1st 2013

    With regard to Sharon Zook’s post, I agree with you Sharon, you make excellent points and hopefully what you say will be carefully considered.

    I think a related point is that “Discernment” ministry has gone very wrong in the church today, especially with regard to the internet. It takes as much discernment to recognize something as true as it does to recognize something as false, and it is just as important to do so. There must be a proper testing of prophecy and ministry, but the internet is allowing an almost instant smearing of everyone.

  124. TO the LORD be all GLORY …………..TO THE LORD be all PRAISE. WORTHY is the LORD………….PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME. REJOICE in HIS SALVATION. REJOICE and DELIGHT in HIM. BLESSED be HE who comes in the name of the LORD.
    FOR HE alone has done it. His ARM has brought salvation.
    BY HIS right hand has this been done. He did not delight
    in burnt offerings………….BUT prepared a BODY………
    That all who believe and Follow Him in Spirit and truth
    should NOT DIE but have everlasting LIFE.
    HE alone is worthy , and HE alone to be praised.
    HE alone is righteous, HE alone is JUST and the justifier
    of many. HE alone is GOOD.
    NOW PRAISE YE THE LORD……………that by HIS grace
    FOR CHRISTS sake………………….we are counted and made
    all the above IN CHRIST. TIS a GIFT……………..thus BOAST ONLY IN THE LORD. Be obediant unto HIS GRACE,
    follow the Voice of the SHEPARD of the SHEEP, the bishop of our souls, and LEAD us HOME HE WILL.
    TAKE HEED unto SOUND DOCTRINE, and the body.
    TO FOLLOW and HEED the flesh is only death.
    MAKE that election and calling SURE.
    OH as pilgrims in a dark land………..FOLLOW the LIGHT
    Seek the CITY which is to come……….
    FOR ONE day the MEEK shall inherit the earth. THIS world is NOT my HOME……………LET US SEEK the CITY TO COME.
    WARN……………………FOR time draws short.
    BE ON GAURD for the devil roars and roams about seeking and destroying and taking captive all at his will.
    he cannot be defeated through carnal reasonings of men
    through philosophies, or physcologies……………..
    satan is the master of all the worlds wisdom and mens reasonings.
    RESIST HIM BY OUR FAITH and GET BURIED DEEP in SOUND DOCTRINE . FOR many are falling away, many be lost and dont even know they be lost.
    REJOICE in GODS GRACE……………….for if it were NOT for HIS GRACE…………………..we would belive as many who are lost do.
    TIS ONLY by HIS GRACE and the continued supply thereof
    are we KEPT from evil.
    COMMIT thy WORKS unto the LORD and thy THOUGHTS shall be established. SEEK for him with the whole heart…………
    ASK……………for how much MORE shall your heavenly Father give the HOLY SPIRIT to them who ask…………
    KNOCK and the DOOR shall be opened.
    LEARN and have ALL affections SET above, not here on earth.
    TRUST HIS EVERY WORD……………..not reasonings of the carnal mind. ARM up with GOOD sound doctrine. READ the BIBLE. LEARN what GOD has said……………and YE can
    KNOW when a man speaks whether he is of GOD
    or of his own self. FOR no man speaking by the SPIRIT
    will EVER contradict what has been written. LEARN
    and LEARN to be content in all circumstances.
    FOR though one may lack all, be down to the worst circumstnaces
    in prisons, in betryals, afflictions, loss of all things………..
    STILL they have ALL for THEY HAVE CHRIST
    and have the HOPE of SALVATION. amen.

  125. Vicki Feb 1st 2013

    Jeff and Darren, posting early among the replies, are correct! Please, please brothers in Christ: pray, research, open the historical gospels and your hearts, and see the bad theology of this Cahn that leads many astray and away from the witness of Christ, to become wordly. There are two kingdoms: God’s over which Jesus reigns according to the wisdom from above which is pure and peaceable; and the god of this world’s kingdoms of which ALL earthly nations are part.

    The USA is NOT a covenant nation of God’s. Only God can initiate covenant. Hid so with Israel and grafted in the gentile church. The mediator of that covenant is Jesus.

    God is not about saving “America” or present political state of Israel; He desires PEOPLE to repent and come OUT of those allegiances into His holy nation.

    America is not founded upon nor by the Lord. It is one more nation and power on this earth.

    Sacralism is an error that dissipates the church in Her Great Commission and defiles her. It will also lead, as it always has, with church men persecuting true saints. Please, I beseech you all, look into this with a teachable attitude!

  126. Vicki Feb 1st 2013

    Watchful: I appreciate your humble and sincere spirit. I pray that we will all inquire of the Lord in these days to keep in communion with Him. May I humbly point out, however, that God did not “speak through” Balaam’s donkey. Reading the account, we see that God merely opened the donkey’s mouth so that she could speak for herself. This seems a common saying nowadays, that God spoke through a donkey, but not entirely accurate and does not mean the same nor can be used the same as some have tried to use it.
    With respect and affection, Vicki

  127. Andrew Feb 1st 2013

    I certainly do not think Jonathan Cahn deliberately deceived us at all in this. To him it was just another opportunity to share his message. And he did it well.

    But for the organizers and producers to put the “Presidential seal” on it and even to call it the “Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast” – that is very misleading and comes close to outright misrepresentation, in my view. They needed to REALLY make it clear what this was. Otherwise the church comes out smelling bad.

    Bless you!

    Andrew Strom.

  128. watchful Feb 1st 2013

    Hallelujah, hallelujah, amen! Blessed so blessed is the name of the Lord and I praise Him for His goodness! God richly bless you Randall, how lovely to me is that voice in the wilderness.

    Thank you Vicki for your kindness, if I am deceived by the deceiver then truly it is only me to blame, but the Father is so gracious and kind to forgive and cleanse and deliver and open my blind eyes. What He showed me is that blending and mixing the gospel and faith of Christ our Saviour with politics or anything else worldly is actually horrible and a deceiving spirit, and we are to keep ourselves set apart and chaste for Him, by His grace.

  129. Roger (NZ) Feb 1st 2013

    There are lessons here people, for all to learn. 🙂

    If a video clip, and an emotional talk, together with the misuse of a presidential seal, are able to deceive so easily – what does one need to do to be able to discern as these deceptions become more intense..?

    Mat 24:23-24 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    Whilst we may be kind and say that we don’t believe there was any intent to deceive – only God knows the hearts of those who planned and put this together.

    It for each one of us to seek Holy Spirit discernment, to listen and hear what the Holy Spirit has to say of any teaching from man.

  130. Roger (NZ) Feb 2nd 2013

    P.S. to my last, and apologies: When I spoke of ‘intent to deceive’ – I was referring to the organisers of the ‘breakfast’ – NOT to any posters on this thread 🙁

  131. Hi Roger thanks for your input to here, and thank you Andrew for hosting this.

    Roger. “..only God knows the hearts of those who planned and put this together….” a common saying from God’s people, often true, but do not forget that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks” If we listen to what others say, we often get a good insight as to the state of their heart?

    Also to all, I believe that Spirit filled people often go overboard with what we call “discernment” I do not wish to discount it altogether, but rather add that a lot of what is claimed by many, to me, to be the “gift” of discernment, only requires only plain common sense to see. Why claim we need a “gift” to understand what an unsaved person, not in possession of any gifts of the Spirit, can comprehend through common sense?
    Pr Michael

  132. harvestistipe Feb 2nd 2013

    I would like to believe all this is not to permote a book, but it seems there are some questionable people and interviews he has surrounded himself with so I would proceed with causion.

    The message itself, a call to judgement and repentance is exactly on target, especially to many who were in attendance.
    God will and has used the message already for that I am thankful,, but I can not recommend him nor his associations.

  133. WATCHFUL……………………BE BLESSED.
    WHEN our HOPE is above in HIM………………and all affections upon HIM……………………WE ARE FREE.
    I am so JOYED that you got edification from the post.
    BECAUSE your heart is above………….NOT HERE.
    AND a GOOD WORD is like COLD water to a thirsty soul.
    PRAISE the LORD…………………..PRAISE the LORD.
    Tis of his mercies and compassions alone we are not consumed.
    I see and am learning day by day…………….
    When brethren joy in the LORD…………………..and all affections are above on HIM………………..TIS truly like the oil that ran down aarons beard…………….smooth and peaceful.
    I beleive we should always BOAST in the LORD…………
    THE TRUTH lifts us all UP and reminds us of the HOPE we have
    the anchor of our soul…………..and jOY and PEACE
    are uppon us. Be blessed .
    FEED on the green pastures of HIS EVERY WORD……….and JOY in HIS salvation……………….
    FOR HE alone is worthy of all glory and let us be always
    thankful unto HIM…………….FOR all HE has done
    and continues to do through his GRACE shed upon our hearts
    Giving us the LIGHT we need in a pitch black world.
    HE is the way , the truth and the life……………and just the truth
    of HIS MERCIES in Grace……………….is all the reason to JOY in HIS salvation. FOR HE saved ones LIKE us……….
    and knowing HE called one of the worst like me out of darkness
    GIVES me all the reason to have all the JOY in HIM.
    AND the JOY of the LORD is MY STRENGTH……..
    a reminder daily……………………..of the GLORY also
    which one day shall be revealed at HIS COMING.
    and WHAT PEACE and JOY this gives me IN THIS LIFE
    GODLINESS is profitable in this life and the one to come.
    FOR Knowing this gives me all the true peace and joy
    THE WORLD can and never will give.
    OUR PEACE is of GOD. IN the world we shall have persecutions,
    but be of GOOD CHEER , CHRIST has overcome the world
    and our faith IN HIM…………..shall have us overcome as well.
    the REWARD shall be great. AMEN.

  134. GaryB Feb 2nd 2013

    I don’t think Jonathan Cahn was purposely trying to deceive anyone as well.

    I am concerned that so many would say the book called the “Harbinger” is so great.

    When in reality the book comes across as being mystical. The prophet in the story comes across as some elusive individual.

    The story makes this prophet look like he has the ability of a wizard to come and go bringing bits of secret knowledge to the individual who in turn only shares it with a friend.

    Here is one of the definitions of “harbinger”:

    2. anything that foreshadows a future event; omen; sign: Frost is a harbinger of winter.

    The whole book just gives the wrong impression of the ministry of a prophet.

    Its amazing that so many here cannot see the inconsistencies throughout the whole book.

  135. watchful Feb 2nd 2013

    Amen, amen Randall….may the Father shower down His blessings upon you brother because it says who has will be given more! Who could even imagine more than this, I cannot, but He is able to do more than we can ask or imagine. Maybe the Lord will lead you to get in touch with me sometime isrenderall at yahoo dot com

    As for deceptions, it seems that a deceiving spirit doesn’t have to come by conscious intent because it is a spirit, but each one can take responsibility if we are deceived in any way. Praise the Lord for His unfathomable goodness and grace to forgive and deliver, He is greater and far above things like this and has worked it together for good in my life, He is the only one who can save us and keep us, because we can’t deliver ourselves from evil spirits with our conscious minds.

    Myself, I have heard of the book, but haven’t read it, and to me it wouldn’t be surprising if these things and more like it have been foretold in the scriptures because the Lord our God knows the end from the beginning and often we can only see prophecies fulfilled in hindsight because they are not meant for fortune-telling but to bring Him glory. For admonition etc, and for our encouragement that He is on the Throne ruling and reigning above every circumstance. We are to buy the truth but sell it not and keep ourselves unsullied by the world.

  136. Brian and Anne Nelson Feb 2nd 2013

    Shalom Pastor,Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, Toda rabah for an extremely timely “wake-up” call of the shadow of G-d’s Judgement, the purpose, as you correctly told us, to bring the nation of America to redemption.
    We are citizens of South Africa and would desire that our nation too would humble themselves, turn from our evil ways, confess our sins (abortion amongst them, including many, many other grievous sins as well including ancestry worship), ask for God’s forgiveness that He might indeed heal our land also. We pray for Israel and The Jewish People regularly; it is an immense privilege and honour to do so. We agree with Deb of Pennsylvannia in the Comments who asks why were the people present at The Inaugural President’s Prayer Breakfast not in repentance instead of what we saw, which looked and sounded like applause ? May we turn from our sin !!

  137. cgardn Feb 2nd 2013

    Again, first off: it is NOT a prayer breakfast of the President; that’s a ruse on the part of those presenting. Now: Why are they clapping and cheering instead of crying and praying — or even thinking? Because, contrary to what this man said, that what he will say is not political, the whole thing IS political. This man, this Cahn, is doing pretty much exactly what the person who’s name or reputation he’s trying to ride on didn’t want to do; the actual person who was invited to the inauguration backed out because he didn’t want to explain his position or even get into those weeds (about homosexuality) because his own real focus is on protecting and rescuing people from literal slavery. The actual inauguration committee was concerned because the mistake was made, the last time around, to have someone in the position of the invocation who had stood with people who want, in Uganda, to kill (in actual fact) homosexual persons. [Fourth poster on this topic] Nsaba Buturo? Have you been homosexually raped? If so, I can assure you President Obama is not in favor of that — trying to force that on anyone. Otherwise, whoever does not want to behave homosexually, just don’t do that sort of thing. [And, by the way, simply being married to a woman or having children does not prove that one is not homosexual. You will be glad to know, however, that Ahmajinedad says there are NO gay people in Iran. I don’t know if that is enforced like some in Uganda want to try to enforce such a notion or whether he is instead in a more benign form of denial.]

  138. Robert Feb 2nd 2013

    going back and reading your stand on “nationalism, politcal gain and patriotism, I am surprised that you have allowed this and continue to allow the viewing of this video when it has been asked to be taken down by the group in charge of making it and also Cahn ministries. IT IS NOT PRESIDENTIAL and for you to by pass TRUTH and what IS RIGHTEOUS and Character and INTEGRITY on your part, to go w/ “BECAUSE YOU HAVE RECEIVED LOTS OF LETTERS TO KEEP IT ON” it really makes me question things.

    Andrew you are wrong. This is nothing but a politcal breakfast w/ high ups and mixture and on top of that, the other guest speakers are not even Christian.

    Oh MY!!!!!

  139. Robert Feb 2nd 2013

    Matter of fact many senators and others backed out at the very end , before this high priced breakfast was to happen.

    The reason , because they did not want to associate themselves w/ one other speaker. The speaker was not standing for Righteousness but actually had been quoted that “he has prayed for obama to die”

    I hope you don’t delete this, because this is truth.
    You can read all about it and who this guy (Cahn ) truly runs around w/

    Also he has not just been associated w/ NAR , but he has gone on Sid Roth show, who was also in the “breakfast,” and J. Cahn went on his show and you can hear it in the entirety on the Sid Roth Supernatural show he has.” Just look it up. — I posted it below.

    Here is another website

    People , please, do you all selves a favor, not for you, but so you can be right w/ the Lord. Just lay all your thoughts(preconceived) allow HIM, to remold you , We have all fallen into traps before and delusion will come more swiftly as time goes by. We need to truly seek the Lord, not believe every book or person that calls themselves prophets, or apostles, and go unto the BIBLE. Allow Holy Spirit to teach you, not just what man says is from the Lord.

    For those that have come out of other false ministries, it is easy to be sucked into another one, until you have completely let it all go and asked for forgiveness UNTO THE LORD and, repented and truly lay it down. Then sometimes you have to WAIT UPON HIM. Many darts will fly and many will try to wooo you into their line of thinking — it is a trap. Please be careful.

    May God bless you and MAY HIS LIGHT TRULY REIGN,


  140. cgardn Feb 2nd 2013

    Hmmm; slightly before 3:45 (at you second link, Robert), Robertson (who has said so many weird things in his career it’s sad anyone listens to him) says 9/11 was the first time we’d been hit since 1812. So, why was it again that we went into WWII?

  141. cgardn Feb 2nd 2013

    Spelling error: “your” — not “you second link” BUT also a follow up here. I do not mean to imply we were right to follow up 9/11 with military action of a wanton sort, such as in Iraq. My point is the factual untruth that we had not been hit since 1812.

  142. Jim & Shirley Fry Feb 3rd 2013

    Praise God for Cahn’s boldness to speak words from the heart and Spirit of God in warning for those who are in the “valley of decision,” still waiting for “some convenient time” to decide where they will spend eternity. MAY this Word go around the globe in these last moments of history just before God says, “SON, go get your body.” Amen and Amen.

  143. cgardn Feb 3rd 2013


    [49] Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.

  144. cgardn Feb 3rd 2013

    Isaiah 3:13 – 15 The LORD has taken his place to contend….

    “It is you who have devoured the vineyard, the spoil of the poor is in your houses. What do you mean by crushing my people, by grinding the face of the poor?” says the Lord GOD of hosts.

  145. I agree with you Roger, we are in great need of discernment as God’s people.
    Ultimately I ask myself one question . . . who or what is being lifted up?
    If the prophetic/revival people would ask this question, I’m sure they would soon see the desire of their hearts fulfilled. God would be exalted in the hearts, words and acts of his people and the world would cry out as their impoverished, corrupted enslavement to darkness was quickly exposed. Sadly there is very little discernment; though I’m encouraged by what others have perceived on this site.

    Self interest, going in our name, flag waving and promotion of our message or ministry will never succeed in changing the current spiritual climate. Only when it is Christ alone that is lifted up, the wounds and grief we have caused him are exposed before a wicked, rebellious and blind world and a unity and surrender to his leading and purposes begins; can we begin to know we are functioning as his prophetic people.

    We can be excited about much that was said here, I didn’t like his book, but I appreciate his zeal and much of what was preached, but we need something beyond strong messages. We need a broken people, grieved that God is being dishonored and his his church scattered and divided and powerless to rise up. The Lord is looking for those who will cry out, minister and intercede – not as solo performers, but as a body to show a better way to live and to rise up and demonstrate the kingdom of God. It’s as though some people think Peter’s preaching was the key to the growth of the early church – this explains a great deal of the idolatry of the ‘man of God’ we see today.

    A divided, self seeking culture on the road to destruction will I believe, only be turned and called to repentance when unselfish, spirit filled people free from fleshly and worldly concerns and the need to promote their movement, begin to speak out. Self, nationalism, denominationalism and every other work of man is powerless to change things – only in his name and for his glory alone, with our hearts ablaze with his purposes and message, will he again be exalted and the world turned.

    Otherwise we can just continue to build our ministries and further our own names, being applauded for our zeal and biblical content, but we’ll lose this culture in doing so.

  146. BTW, that’s why people didn’t get on their knees, they weren’t called to brokenness and surrender or cut to the heart. They ended up excited about a message, which they applauded. . . but was God being applauded for what was spoken and acknowledged as our only hope?

  147. Richard Savage Feb 3rd 2013

    Gaz, excellent, truly excellent. Who may add to that?

    The terrible fact is, it so often requires a tragedy, a no hope situation, personal or otherwise, to bring us to brokenness, that place where there is nothing else but Christ. That’s my experience.

    I thank and praise God that, even what we’re experiencing now, ends at the foot of the Cross. There’s just nowhere else to lay our hopelessness, our wretchedness. And there He is with us, and we know it.

  148. Jessica Feb 4th 2013

    The USA has been warned to repent. How many will open their EYES and EARS?

  149. harvestistipe Feb 4th 2013

    Gaz and Richard you are absolutely right it has to be a true brokeness before the Lord. I might only add a true fear of the Lord also as we see our true self before him, we truely allow the Lord to search us,and we are found,wanting, it does not only bring the fear of the Lord but a deep brokeness, if we truely love him with our whole heartl.

    It is this personal encounter with the Lord, when we go humbly before him, as David and ask him to search our hearts.
    I can not help but believe everyone here including myself have areas of our lives that need to be layed at the foot of the cross begging the Lord to save us from ourselves in true repentance, only then can he begin to do a great work within us when we let it all go, pick up our cross and follow him, it has to be total surrender and trust.

    I have been thinking all day about Moses in the tent of meetings, and how his face would glow after he had been with the Lord

    How long has it been since we have truely been with the Lord, in his presence.NO I am not saying in his Presence as we know,but a deeper seeking all of him, not what we want of him, I am speaking of BEING IN HIS PRESENCE THAT WE ARE NO LONGER OUR OWN THAT WE ARE HIS, it is there we are truely changed.

    I cry Oh Lord change me, I want what Moses and David had with you, it is in this place that we are kept under the safety of your wings, it is there we truely hunger and thrist and follow you all the days of our lives. I want to love you as John loved you that same kind of relationship you and he had, I want to walk in the same obediance and fellowship, truely only then can I say I am truely yours.
    It is then and only then we will deeply weep for our sins and weep for the lost and be broken over the abominations against you It is only then we will walk in your kingdom and not that of our own..

    There is the secret place where you are found,seek me with you whole heart and you shall find me, the same place David, Moses, John have been under your guidence under you everlasting nearness as we are joined to you, Lord i condess we spend too much time away from you, I pray our hearts be engaged daily seeking you, Hear our cry oh Lord draw us closer to you Lord that we may truely know you more and more that we be fit vessels for your kingdom walking in your light full of the holy Spirit.

    Lord I am so troubled in heart as I am witnessing the falling away in so many today I fell overwhelmed by the wickedness and feel surrounded by so many that have named the name of Jesus, that had once known the truth and no longer walk in your truth
    Jesus you told the church to hold on to what you first believed, the cross the cross the blood the blood, you are the Son of God, God in the flesh, you are the only way to the Father, you came you died you rose again,your precious blood atoneing for our sins you made a way for those whom would believe and repent and pick up our cross and follow you,those whom are not ashamed of the gospel, you are sitting at the right had side of the Father you will come again, you will judge the wicked and those whom belong to you we will live forever eternally with you Jesus. PRAISE YOU LORD – THANK YOU LORD, search us oh Lord that we may walk in your righteousness..