AMERICA AFTER OBAMA – a Prophecy – COMMENTS?

NOTE: A very interesting prophecy was released this past week by two old friends of mine – Robert Holmes and Mario Liu. I would be very interested in your comments, my friends-

AMERICA AFTER OBAMA – a Prophecy
by Robert Holmes and Mario Liu

When the Arab Spring movement ousted Mubarak from power in
February 2011, I was bewildered. I was expecting that America
would come to the aid of its ally in the Middle East. Mubarak was
a dictator, but at the same time he has been a loyal friend of the
USA and Israel. Mubarak helped Israel during its conflicts with its
neighbours, and he supported USA in its foreign policies in the
Middle East.

When Mubarak was in danger during the revolution, instead of
offering Mubarak support, Obama criticized Mubarak’s human
rights record. Apparently Obama took the side of the revolution
which toppled Mubarak in the belief that this would promote the
cause of democracy in Egypt. Instead of democracy, Egypt after
Mubarak was taken over by radical Muslims who allowed rockets
being smuggled into Gaza Strip through tunnels originating in
Egypt. Subsequently the Egyptian people revolted again and
another dictator came to power. The present government of Egypt
is no longer a friend of America.

The past few months I have came across several articles which
confirmed my unease. I have read in a New York Times Magazine
article that some Middle East countries are buying fighter planes,
and warships, from France instead of the USA:

“The French government, in concert with French defense manu-
facturer Dassault, is on the verge of concluding contracts for up
to 96 Rafale fighter jets. Of those, India will get 36, Egypt will get
24 and Qatar will get 24 and an option to buy 12 more. … Egypt
receives more than a billion dollars annually in military aid from
the United States that it is largely obligated to spend on American
military hardware. But after President Obama suspended military
aid to Egypt in 2013, when the military ousted Mohamed Morsi,
the first democratically elected Egyptian leader, Egypt aggressively
pursued defense suppliers elsewhere and France was the beneficiary….
Other Persian Gulf neighbors, including Saudi Arabia and the
United Arab Emirates, have opted for mixed fleets of American
and European-built jets.”

In my view Obama has been carelessly squandering hard won
friendships which have been built up over decades by his predecessors.

In the following extract from a recent news item, President Barack
Obama invited the leaders of six Persian Gulf countries to meet
with him at his summit. Four out of six Head of States refused to
come, and they are sending junior representatives instead:…

“Mr Obama is convening the summit as the administration is
trying to restore the flagging confidence of Gulf Arab leaders in
US leadership in the face of an emboldened Iran. Several heads
of state are sending lower level officials to meet with Mr Obama,
sparking questions about whether the president had been
snubbed by frustrated allies.
“Saudi Arabia’s King Salman cancelled two days after the White
House announced he had formally accepted an invitation to a
White House dinner on Wednesday and a day of talks at Camp
David, the presidential retreat. With King Salman’s decision to
stay home, only two heads of state from the six invited countries
will be present.”

“There is a ‘very deep lack of trust’ in this administration ‘after six
years of empty promises, hesitation, indecisiveness’ in response
to the region’s crises, said Mustafa Alani, an analyst at the Gulf
Research Centre in Geneva.
“Arab apprehension about Mr Obama has been growing for years,
fuelled by his decision to abandon President Hosni Mubarak of
Egypt, tepid support for moderate Syrian rebels and the president
ignoring his own “red line” against chemical weapons use by the
Assad regime in Syria.”
(Bloomberg – May 12, 2015 Sydney Morning Herald)

Another political blow to the USA relates to the China’s Asian
Infrastructure Investment Bank. USA has been pressuring its key
allies, including Australia, not to take part in China’s new bank.
However, one by one they have ignored US wishes and many
countries have signed up:…
“The administration was dealt an embarrassing political blow when
the U.K., Germany, France and a host of other Western nations
snubbed requests by Washington officials to sit out membership
in the AIIB amid questions over the new institution’s standards.
The diplomatic bruising renewed questions about whether the U.S.
is losing its economic clout in the world.”
(Real Time Economics )

All these disastrous political episodes led me to wonder whether
Obama is deliberately sabotaging the USA. So Robert Holmes
and I prayed about this. I asked God “Obama’s actions have done
a lot of harm to USA. He has allowed US allies to be removed
without offering help, terrifying other remaining friends of the US.
Obama allowed Syrian government to ‘cross the red line’ of using
poison gas on the rebels without consequence, thus losing
credibility with the rest of the world. Is Obama a traitor? Were his
actions deliberately planned or has some enemies of USA sent
Obama as a spy to destroy USA from within?”

God said to us “Don’t give Satan credit for Obama, I put him there!
The US got what they deserve, in answer to their request. Obama’s
decisions are entirely his. They do not represent my heart.”

The End of Empire America and “Remember Obama is my Alexander”

In November 2008 Robert Holmes published an article called “The
End of Empire America.” In the article Robert summarized a series
of prophecies from God saying that the Empire of America is
coming to an end. In Robert’s article he wrote “In 1999, as I
prepared to travel to the US on ministry, the Lord gave me a very
unusual prophetic word. He said that, ‘In the days of Babylon,
when her walls stood wide and her leaders stood tall, her defences
were strong and her campaigns victorious, Alexander the Great
came and defeated her. In the same way, my Alexander will stand
in the very midst of the United States of America’.” When Obama
was elected president of America, God confirmed to us many times
that Obama is God’s Alexander, and God would use Obama to
bring about the end of America as an empire…

In July 2012 I came across an article by R Loren Sandford called
“HIDDEN WICKEDNESS – a CALL TO PRAYER”. In this article
Sandford said “What I ‘know’ today with certainty is that something
sinister, deeply hidden, wrong and dangerous is going on at a
national governmental level. It is moving this nation down a path
that will harm us greatly and alter our country beyond recognition
if not stopped. Truth be told, I can’t with confidence blame it solely
on Obama, Democrats, Republicans or Romney. I suspect it goes
deeper than any kind of party affiliation or individual office holder
and that many of these people are simply pawns on a chessboard,
whether they know it or not. I only know that what I sense is real,
it is huge and it has my insides in knots. I don’t know whether or
not it will be revealed at some point and issue in a huge public
scandal or whether it will continue in hiddenness, molding and
shaping our lives in ways we don’t even fully realize now. I just
know it’s there and growing in destructive power.”

In July 2012 Robert and I met to pray about this. I asked God “Is
Obama part of the sinister plan that you have revealed to R
Sandford?” God’s answer was “Remember Obama is my Alexander.
There is a deep plan behind the scenes.” I asked God to reveal
more about the evil plans. God said “Connected to the ‘sinister
plans’ – It is not Russia OR China directly – remember ‘watch the
Middle East’ – ‘Watch’.”

The meaning of God’s answer was not very clear. But I gathered
the following: 1. Obama is involved in a deep plan behind the
scenes. 2. The plans involve the Middle East directly, and Russia
and China indirectly. 3. The whole episode is connected to God’s
Alexander, meaning that this is part of the process of ending
Empire America.

Feeling that I needed more help in understanding the meaning of
“God’s Alexander,” I asked God to please explain what that meant.
In November 2012 God said to us “”The interpretations of the
Obama prophecies are as follows: 1. Babylon was the world’s
largest and most powerful empire. The United States is the same.
2. Alexander the Great was an enigmatic leader from the outside.
So is Obama. 3. Alexander defeated Babylon without bloodshed.
So does Obama. 4. Alexander stood in the middle of Babylon –
not at the city walls. Obama stood in Chicago, which is near the
middle of the USA, as opposed to being in the coastal areas of
the USA. 5. Once it was brought to its knees, Babylon was ended
and split up among several of Alexander’s generals. So will the
United States. The USA Empire is over. 6. It rusted and decayed.
So will America.”

End of Empire America – what does it mean

In 2012 the Washington State was pushing for legalizing the use
of small amounts of marijuana. One of our friends living in that
State was very concerned about this development.

While Robert and I were praying for this friend, God told us “You
can expect moral decline, city by city and state by state:
bankruptcy both financial and moral. This is the end of Empire.”

Since Obama will finish his presidency in 2016, I am curious to
know what will happen to America afterwards. In May 2015 Robert
and I asked God about this. God told us that “USA after Obama
will be like the British Empire going into decline, shrinking back
and losing her overseas colonies and bases.”

God reminded us of an example of how America is in retreat. It
happened in Yemen in February 2015:
“The US withdrawal from the al-Anad air base comes after an
offensive by al-Qaeda fighters on the nearby city of al-Houta…..”
(from “US troops withdraw from Yemen air base” BBC News
22 March 2015)

In summary, God has revealed to us the following about the future
of America after Obama:
1. Like Babylon after Alexander’s realm, America will rust and
decay. 2. “USA after Obama will be like the British Empire going
into decline, shrinking back and losing her overseas colonies and
bases.” 3. “You can expect moral decline, city by city and state
by state: bankruptcy both financial and moral. This is the end of Empire.”

“Hillary Clinton will become America’s first female leader”

In April 2015, Hillary Clinton announced that she was planning to
run for president. Robert and I prayed and asked God about the
2016 US election, and about Hillary’s chances.

God said to Robert “Remember that after Bill Clinton stepped
down, I told you then that Hillary Clinton will run for president ,
and that she will become America’s first female leader.”

Thinking that this prophecy may be of interest to other members
of the Storm Harvest List community I sought to get more information
about Hillary’s presidency. If Obama is Alexander sent by God
to end the Empire of America, Hillary will represent a significant
historic figure also.

I prayed and asked God for further insight on the Hillary presidency.

God said: “Mercurial is a word to describe the leadership style of
Hillary Clinton.”

According to the dictionary, mercurial describes someone whose
mood or behavior is changeable and unpredictable, or someone
who is clever, lively, and quick.

I feel that there is more to be revealed. I may follow up on this topic
in a future newsletter.

“Stop being ‘America’ and start being Christ’s followers”

God is love, and He loves us. Whatever God does is for our good.

In January 2015, God showed Robert the words “Exit Empire –
Enter Kingdom.” Then God said “Stop being ‘America’ and start
being Christ’s followers.”

God wants all of us to stop playing church, and to be serious
about listening to and obeying the prompting of the Holy Spirit.
We should deny ourselves daily, carry our cross, and follow Him.

The only safe place in the world is to be found in the centre of
God’s will for us.

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Posted in Uncategorized by Andrew on March 4th, 2015 at 12:03 pm.

82 comments

82 Replies

  1. Where do I begin?

    When you look at the G. Washington Monument, what do you see?

    Pagan Egyptian Oblisk. Research Oblisk.

    The design height of this pagan Oblisk is 555ft (666″ x 10).

    The capstone of this pagan Oblisk is 55.5ft (666″).

    Next: when we see NYC hit with a nuke later this year (Hebrew year 5776) please know that this is Rev. 18:1-19. How do I know? I’ll share that in another reply.

    You wrote, “The only safe place in the world is to be found in the centre of
    God’s will for us.”

    I believe this – the only safe place in this world is within the spiritual ark (think Noah) that is Jesus our Messiah and under the blood of the Lamb (think Israelite in Egypt).

    Blessings
    Rev. 12:11

  2. Everything of man in time bound.
    God raised up this nation into national prominence during the Second World War and this nation has remained in thatosition all these years.

    There has been a change.
    Still it is necessary to have this nation in the forefront.
    After 2016 or after anytime if truly America will decline it can also mean widespread catastrophe.
    Who is going to lead who?
    Whose currency will remain as standard and who is going to submit to who?

    Do we think that God will,raise another nation without His own seal and character?

    Christian leadership is mandatory for this world to survive.

    Genesis 14 gives us a good insight of Abraham and the Kings.
    There was rebellion in the 13 th year and there was war.
    There was a change in the then world order.
    Lot ,who had chosen Sodom was captured.
    It took Abraham and men trained up in his home to bring lot back.
    Even today irrespective of nations there are people like that who have chosen to sit in tents and pray in the wilderness rather than choose sodom.
    Such men will have victory to,bring Lot back.
    If Lot can be seen as the backsliden church and Abraham as our Lord Jesus
    A reconstruction is not far away.
    America was made great not by power or might by by the Spirit of God and God did it through His own,His elect,His church

    Let our focus be on HIM alone.

  3. Robin Carpenter Jun 4th 2015

    Andrew, the only problem that I can see with this (and it’s a big one) is this:
    Historically AND in Scripture (book of Daniel) we’re told that it was Medo-Persia and NOT Alexander who conquered Babylon.

  4. When Obama was elected, I felt that he would be the last president of the USA. I think he will be able to declare martial law before or after the elections to retain power.

    Devastation is coming. Obama may move on and be something with the United Nations, leaving Hillary in charge of the USA – not sure about that. (note that God caller Hillary “leader” not president “Hillary Clinton will become America’s first female leader”)

    Regardless, it is not a welcome scenario in the natural

    However, rather than getting caught up in the specifics of the “how” and the “who” the point of that entire message is

    “Stop being ‘America’ and start being Christ’s followers.”

    Are we or are we not strangers and pilgrims here. Is our city not the One Whose Builder and Maker is God? Are we not citizens of the heavenly kingdom? (Php_3:20 Heb_11:13 1Pe_2:11)

  5. How has America sunk so low in moral decay? Where is the Prophetic Voice? Where is the Fiery Gospel Alex De Toqueville spoke about? It has chosen to shut it’s own mouth to keep its 501(c)3!
    The Lord declares you CANNOT serve both God and MAMMON!
    Wake Up Church! Our God is Great! No matter what happens to America: JESUS takes the Throne! And the kingdoms of this world become the Kingdoms of our Lord Jesus Christ! Do Not Fear,
    Blessings, Mike

  6. Gary M Jun 4th 2015

    A major problem I have with this article is the assumption that the way the USA has made and kept allies (by financing other nations war and dictatorial machines) is unchristian. We find a war lord that will, for money and weapons, ally with us. We help them destroy their opposition. Once their opposition is eliminated they turn on us. They were never our friends and the relationship was/is based on sin.

    Secondly, we have known for decades that the gov’t leaders in the USA are being controlled by forces outside of the political process. Some call them the “elites”. President Kennedy and his brother Robert were assassinated over it. Eisenhower warned us about it. It is a reality.

    We have to consider what and why God id doing what He’s doing. Do we not need to dismantle such an evil system? Or would you rather continue America’s growth and power via an evil system? This is the God’s rod, and perhaps we sould be thankful.

  7. david zaitzeff Jun 4th 2015

    We would normally assume that in a message from GOD . . . that GOD would know the groups that defeated Babylon . . . and that was the Medes and the Persians . . . about 200 years before the conquests of Alexander the Great . . .

    Moreover, the Bible describes the leaders of Babylon at the time of their defeat as acting carelessly and foolishly . . . and not “standing tall” in particular . . .

    It is hard to credit the message to God unless we believe that the first part of it got garbled on the way from heaven to earth . . .

  8. L. Alex Smith Jun 4th 2015

    Alexander the Great took over Babylon and all other nations standing in his path which led to the end of the Medo-Persian empire as a major world power. (300 Spartans at the Pass of Thermopylae held off the Persian army until reinforcements from Greece could arrive).
    That said, the Bible instructs us: “in the mouth of two or three witnesses, let every word be established.” So, seek confirmation from independent sources.
    But most of all, KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE LORD.
    Look not to the left, nor to the right, but straight ahead with focus upon Jesus.
    My prayer has been for years, “Lord, keep me in the centre of your will, and in the palm of your hand.”
    The ancient prophet Zephaniah wrote, “…seek righteousness, seek meekness [lowliness of mind, modesty] –it may be that ye shall be HID in the Day of the LORD’s anger.” (Zeph. 2:3b) …although this is still “only the beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:8) In the long scheme of things, we tend to get short-sighted and think our current circumstances are the epitome and hinge-point of History! But, as things pass, in perspective we find that we were but a foot-note, many times.
    Writing from my wee country village in Scotland, I see the remnants of the British Empire (“the sun never sets on the British Empire” was the boastful phrase from an era now gone)… and yet, people still think of this corner of the world as the Fount of All Wisdom and Knowledge! America CAN fall apart (with devastating consequences), and yet… it is only a nation of 239 years, compared with Britain, which is about 1000, if you want to figure from the Norman Conquest! Caesar said, “Veni, Vidi, Vici…” (I came, I saw, I conquered) and now… Rome still exists as a city, and there are still Italians, but the mighty Empire is long gone. Britain can fade from the scene, and yet is still here. America can fade away through its own convolutions of politic and moral disintegration, but ultimately: GOD’s Plan will go forth on schedule. Fret thou not!

  9. I think the powers at be are trying to rebuild Babylon/ middle east by letting Isis take over the entire area. Actually it would be easier to take over the area if you let Isis (or insert terrorist group) do it for you then reclaim the land from them. Easier than doing it while playing by UN rules.

    As for the marijuana thing, I personally think the government should not be involved in putting people in jail for growing or smoking a plant. But I do think that it will contribute to moral decline…although if you are going to smoke weed, you already do (its not exactly hard to get ahold of).

    For a chuckle read this article…WARNING: Marijuana Will Turn You Into a Liberal [http://rational.org/blog/?p=60]

  10. America as a Western nation has always been from its inception two pronged. One prong worked for the establishment of the righteous Laws of God Almighty, and the other prong for the establishment of a One World Government which would appoint its own ‘god’.
    In order for that OWG to be brought into play, America must cease to be a major voice and influence for justice, equity and truth. This has been the agenda behind the scenes from the beginning.
    The man in the White House who is the USA’s 44 president is not the real power broker. He seems to be one who has to do what he is told by others more powerful than he, who have no law but their own. However, every decision he makes he is responsible for, and God will hold him accountable for those. He could choose to defy those who give him orders, but most men will seek to save their own skin before the skin of his neighbours.

    “Theoretically, Aristotle contrasted rule by the many (democracy/polity) with rule by the few (oligarchy/aristocracy) and with rule by a single person (tyranny or today autocracy/monarchy).” – (Source: Boundless. “Theories of Democracy.” Boundless Sociology. Boundless, 01 Jun. 2015. )

    It is becoming increasingly clear to perhaps many of late that America has become all three – “rule by the many” offically; “rule by the few” behind the scenes; and ‘rule by the one’ in practice who uses the privilege of the ‘Presidency’, within a few short decades.

    When Israel departed from the living God by mixing error with truth, occult practices with worship of Jehovah; when they slaughtered innocent children, even the unborn, when they did not defend the cause of the orphan, widow and poor, when they prostituted themselves for money, and allowed every kind of sexual perversion throughout the land, even in the House of God, and when Israel killed their God-sent prophets who warned them of coming judgments if they did not turn back to Him with a whole heart, then God sent His armies in to remove them from the land of their fathers; and their sacred places were burned to the ground.
    Paul says that God judges the Jew first, then the Gentile, just as easily as He blesses the Jew first and the Gentile secondly.
    God is no respector of persons. Unless, repentance toward God and faith and obedience to the Lord Jesus Christ is forthcoming, there will be no place to hide from the coming severity of God.
    As you say Andrew…
    “God wants all of us to stop playing church, and to be serious about listening to and obeying the prompting of the Holy Spirit. We should deny ourselves daily, carry our cross, and follow Him.

    The only safe place in the world is to be found in the centre of God’s will for us.”
    And that centre is hidden in no other than Jesus Christ God’s Son.
    …this applies to presidents all the way up to the commoner, the poorest of the land. I say all the way up because the President being the greater is meant to be the servant of all, the humblest of all… as far as God is concerned.

  11. Reb, I am inclined to believe you about Obama being the last presidentof the US. Listened to another in depth prophecy saying the same thing recently.

  12. Bob Brown Jun 4th 2015

    Hi All,
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    Brother Andrew has posted new numbers.
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    God Bless you,
    Bob

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  13. As an American, living in America this makes me sick to my stomach.

    Sadly, judgement begins in the household of God and churches in America have been slowly, gradually drifting further and further from The Word, the truth.

    May God have mercy on His remnant in America-

  14. What gets us into trouble is not what we don’t know… It’s what we know for sure that just ain’t so. Mark Twain

    If people really knew how to get in the center of God’s will for them, do you think there would be a multitude of “Christian” denominations today? Unity is not division; it is being of one mind in the Spirit of the one true YaHavah.

    If “Christians” knew what it really means to deny themselves, carry their cross, and follow Jesus do you think the “Church” and this country would be like it is today?

    Do you not know that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy? Satan has twisted every truth of the Bible to the point no one knows what the testimony of Jesus Christ is anymore.

    The prophecy from Robert Holmes and Mario Liu is not a prophecy. It is a prediction coming from their search for God in the news. The only words of value in their prediction are “start being Christ’s followers.”

    The “Church” has the monumental work of cleaning its own house of garbage imposed on it by the infamous “Enchanter” aka Satan. Test the spirit of every doctrine, even the most trusted ones, to see if they are really from YaHavah and Jesus. If you are really interested in knowing how to “start being Christ’s followers” check out the free book “The Secret Satan does not want you to know” at http://www.freebiblepdf.com

  15. God raised up Obama to show us what we have become. We’re quick to criticize him for what he’s doing, but we’ve done the exact same stuff.

    I’m so glad I have a savior.

  16. Steve Hicks Jun 4th 2015

    Brothers:

    I guess we can test the truth of this prophecy by seeing whether or not Hilary becomes President.

    In the meantime, “the end of Empire America” is certainly true, and a very good thing. American Christianity has suffered great corruption by identifying with “Empire America.” Perhaps when the false idol is thrown down, American Christians will return to their First Love, Hope, Power, Glory, and Kingdom.

    Those whose hearts are truly set on God will. Many will turn against Him for “failing” America. What a great dividing that will be.

    blessings, Steve

  17. Jonathan Cahn in his books The Harbingers and The Mystery of the Shemitah has identified the judgments that God has already metered out on the USA starting with 9/11 Twin Towers in 2001 and seven years later with the 2008 Stock Market collapse both Shemitah years. Also both stock market collapses in 2001 (after Twin Towers collapse) and 2008 both occurred on the 29th day of Elul when God commanded Israel to clear debts. 2015 is another Shemitah year so expect to see more judgment on America as it certainly has not turned back to God in fact the opposite is true.

  18. Kathleen Jun 4th 2015

    I share the skepticism of others. It doesn’t take prophecy or rocket science to recognize the downward trajectory of America, or the hand that Obama’s had in making it so.

    Obama’s no Alexander. No one would credit him with courage or strong leadership, much less inspiring/leading vast armies. He’s a puppet & a pawn who reads a teleprompter well. Likely he espouses a not-so-hidden agenda. We’re all the worse off for it.

    This made absolutely no sense to me: “4. Alexander stood in the middle of Babylon – not at the city walls. Obama stood in Chicago, which is near the middle of the USA, as opposed to being in the coastal areas of the USA.” Cities are not nations, and Lebanon, Kansas is actually more at the center of the U.S. than Chicago. ~ about 685 miles southwest of it.

    I much preferred Johnathon Cahn’s “Harbinger” to the prophecy outlined here. Besides, the ingredients necessary in the decline of all other great nations are already in the oven here in America.

    Hillary for President? Aye yai yai … I can only hope & pray they are wrong. Dead wrong.

  19. I accept the prophecy as being 100% true. Those who claim it to not be from God state that the Medes and Persians , not Alexander, conquered Babylon. Well it is certainly true that the Medes and Persians got there firs in the natural, historical realm. But Alexander still conquered Babylon. Many verses speak of so-and-so being someones son, when in reality so-and-so was that person’s grandson. Do we then conclude that the Bible is in error? Nonsense! Part of the problem is that our natural, carnal minds are still too much attuned to the natural realm. Babylon speaks of a spiritual state. The natural is put in the Bible to lead us to the spiritual Truth. I do not believe that Obama is the last president of the U.S. “As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them (Isaiah 3:12). The U.S. has been moving in that direction for quite a long time. I will not say, “thus saith the Lord,” but it seems highly likely that Hillary Clinton will be the fulfillment of that verse for the U.S. Will the U.S. survive Hillary’s term? Again I will not say, thus saith the Lord, but I sincerely doubt it.
    There is absolutely no question that economic Babylon will fall very soon, certainly for the U.S. and the whole world. Is there any nation which symbolizes spiritual Babylon more than the U.S.? I doubt it. The great majority of the visible church today is loaded with spiritual Babylon … materialism, intellectualism, sensualism, humanism, idolatry (in ways you would never believe), and all of the other “isms” of man.
    Nevertheless, I really am not too interested in more articles which speak of the collapse of the U.S. or “what is wrong with the modern-day church.” They are all very true, but the Lord told me very clearly a number of years ago to stop talking about the state of the visible church. Instead, He asked, “What are you going to do about it?”
    The ONLY thing we can do is: “Let the priests, the ministers of the Lord, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare Thy people, O Lord” (Joel 2:12). That is real intercession. The priests, the ministers of the Lord, does NOT refer to those in the pulpits at any level of Christendom, certainly not in charismatic churches. If they were in the pulpits, they would have to come out of her, My people, plus 90% of their “flock” would leave. It refers to the overcomers, those who minister to the Lord, the tithe of the tithe, Gideon’s army,spiritual Zion, (you can say it dozens of ways). Those folks are hidden away, physically separated, spiritually united by the Holy Ghost. They identify with the heart of the Lord Jesus and they literally weep over spiritual Jerusalem. They mourn, they groan in their spirit, they fast, they rend their heart and not their garments, they cry unto the Lord that He will spare His people (not the world). Jesus said that He did not pray for the world (John 17:9). There will NEVER be a physical “conference” of such intercessors. The Lord will not allow it. How many of the “other” 7,000 did Elijah meet?
    The bottom line?
    Be ye doers of the word, and not hearers (or speakers) only. What do we “do”? Pray that the Lord will quickly raise up all of His ministers who will walk in Joel 2:12. For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. Be careful if you ask the Lord to make you an overcomer … then He will give you some things to overcome.

  20. Sue Readee Jun 4th 2015

    We can get all caught up in the terribleness of the moment (and we are headed in a terrible direction) or we can be the intercessors we need to be and do spiritual warfare over this nation and pray for a Great Awakening and for God to put godly leaders over this nation! I will pray for the best God will do and come against the wickedness, laboring in prayer while it is still day.

  21. This seemed to be drenched in politics and observations of the day. I lived through the Clinton era and heard all the same things about Bill Clinton. I do believe, like a large percentage of believers around the world that the coming of the Lord is soon. I also believe that nations get the leaders they deserve, that reflect their society. President Obama seems to, by and large, reflect the desires and attitudes of the American people. Christendom is being challenged on multiple fronts and by and large is falling away. The real challenge is to the Body of Christ that exists within the institutions and denominations that call themselves after the name of Christ. As they get swept away by the cultural winds that are blowing now with hurricane force, will the saints continue to identify themselves with these groups or will they ” come our from among her?”

  22. Extract from an Email sent to the broadcaster Barry Farber on the 24.6.2010.

    I have often wondered why the USA is not in Biblical Prophecy. Like many others, Jew and Christian, I have speculated on earthquakes and other natural disasters, or some nuclear accident, internal break-up etc. The thought that the whole thing could be achieved by the appointment of one man is so elegant that it leaves me wondering if God’s hand should be discerned in all that is happening. Not that I am suggesting that Obama is God anointed, by no means! Just that he could be God appointed, which is not the same thing at all.

    An article here: http://thealmondrod.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/the-fall-of-american-empire.html

    The last line of this article reminds us to ‘Watch and Pray’.

    And here:http://thealmondrod.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/goodsons-law-and-other-useful.html

    It is likely that Obama’s actions are deliberate.

    As you will see, I have always been suspicious of Obama and seen him as a tool to bring about the downfall of the USA. He is a seller of snake-oil and we all know which Snake provided the oil.

  23. I read a prophecy years ago written by Frank Hammond that says basically the same thing. This prophecy was written back in 1984 & says that God would get America through its own government — and not to blame the President because its God’s doing. This is worth reading…

    http://freegroups.net/guide/god_warns_america/

  24. Billy Ham Jun 4th 2015

    Oh dear here we go again, as if America is the only country in the world. Has any other christian had the identical prophecy. ??

    Their seems to be a very strong political element in the thinking of the “prophet” as an earlier reply said.

    Is / was Clinton a christian
    This prophecy ( ?) seems very suspect to manipulation, very different that the prophecies in The Word of God.

    You may not agree, but that’s how it seem sto me ( who is not in the U S A

  25. Daniel Erline Jun 4th 2015

    FIRST WATCH THIS VIDEO TO SHOW WHAT THE EVIL POWERS TO BE ARE TRYING TO DO …………………………………………………………………. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3y4EN7UIo

    …………………………………………………………………………………………

    THEN WATCH THIS VIDEO TO SEE WHERE WE REALLY ARE AT WITH REGARDS TO GOD ……………………………………..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HmYuXc-jrM

  26. liz48 Jun 4th 2015

    Just to add the awesome part of something else that is also happening. In the Judaism that Jesus taught (and corrected its practice among the Jewish spiritual leadership at the time), we are taught that in the days of Moshiach (Messiah), it will be as was with Bilaam (Baalam) The enemies of Israel will be her friends if they like it or not. If you remember Balam could not curse Israel but had to Bless her as the Lord controlled his words. Even today the Blessing that came out of Baalam is one of the most powerful Blessings in Judaism.

    Today we see hamas working with Israel behind the scenes because they are against isis which is trying to dislodge them. We see, for the first time, the Prime Minister of India (known as a staunch Hindu) planning to visit Israel. We also saw Obama’s efforts to interfere in the Israeli elections fail, and his support of the muslim brotherhood morsi come to nothing.

    The Moshiach (Messiah) came to make us just like Him – 1John 4:17. We stand as He stands and declare the desires of our heart in Him. We know that it is within the Power of the Sons of G-d to change a decree of evil as we are directed by Father, and we can do that with the greatest confidence because of the Most Powerful Blood of the Lord.

    Our fight is not against flesh and blood, the Word of the Lord tells us. It is against spirits of wickedness. It is not about obama or America. It is about the division of the two spirit kingdoms, and One has already won. Light always triumphs over darkness as darkness is a fleeting shadow.

    I agree with the authors of the article that obama was given on the regular spiritual principle that you get what you deserve. The Lord showed me that obama in his empty by “great” sounding words was reflecting what was happening among the so called “leaders” who call themselves of the Lord. We have to understand to be DECISIVE IN REJECTING THE FALSE. Matthew 7 tells us who is of the Lord and we should reject those who He rejects.

    The idolatry of man will cost you. See Ahab in 1Kings 22. He trusted in the words of his false prophets without being humble before the Lord and he was killed. On the other hand Hezekiah repented when the prophet Isaiah told him he would die, and the Lord extended Hezekiah’s life. Jonah teaches us that the words of a True prophet predicting disaster can be changed, and the disaster averted. These are fundamental teachings in Judaism.

    Let us seek the Lord to teach us always – Matthew 23:8-10, 1John 2:20, 27. To do otherwise is disobedience to the Word of the Lord and is idolatry, which brings confusion and death.

  27. Today I See Our Beloved United States of America as Lost and Irredeemable

    The Bible is replete with history that mirrors the situation in America today. Jeremiah, Isaiah, Daniel and most of the prophets are clear on this point. We would do well to read these historical narratives again looking specifically for what conditions brought down the judgment of God. And, what brought His mercy. This watchman believes that without the mercy of God this nation is doomed.

    It is our responsibility as good citizens to vote responsibly, and as good Christians to pray for our elected officials and our nation. So let’s do that faithfully.

    But as students of Bible prophecy we also need to wake up to the fact we are living in the prophetic end-times when the Antichrist system is manifesting itself as the enemy of all we stand for. Scripture makes it clear that Satan does dominate the world for a short time before Jesus comes again and destroys His enemies.

    Neither restoring the constitution, stopping abortions and gay rights and gun confiscation, paying off the 17+ trillion dollar national debit, nor revolution can change that. If you are a premillennialist you know this to be true. Face it, we are on the cusp of the Tribulation.

    And again I say, there is not enough time left for any other option than to prepare physically, mentally, and especially spiritually for the clear alternative we do have.

    Like Issachar, we as Believers need to understand the times and then know what to do about it.

    “And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do….” ~1 Chronicles 12:32

    For spirit filled Christians that alternative is to prepare for the coming Kingdom of God. Let’s prepare for what God has promised us in His infallible Word. That has always been our mandate since Adam anyhow.

    Let us now look at how God would have us to rebuke and counter Satan’s agenda against us in these last days. As you read these six web pages may the Holy Spirit confirm in your heart what He would have you do!

    Now lets look at some other incontrovertible truths that our very lives may depend on.

    Here is another sure signs we are in the end-times is the prophesied falling away taking place in Christendom today, and there is no reversing that either.

    All Premillennialists* know that we’re on the cusp of the Tribulation, that prophetic time that immediately precedes the 70 weeks of Daniel! How much time is left in your estimation? And we know that after the Tribulation comes the millennium … and then eternity. These fact are an inviolable absolute, an immutable certainty.

    Considering how much society has deteriorated in the last 50 year, do we have 20, or maybe 50 years left before slipping into the 70 weeks of Daniel?

    We must wake up and acknowledge that to be the truth. Men can deny, reject, or ignore that truth; but they cannot change it. And who would want to?

    Whatever you do, don’t miss this point:

    This being true, is it not obvious that there is not enough time left to save our beloved nation?

    Therefore there is no sensible options left other than to save what CAN be saved, and that is peoples souls and lives. To do that we will need to prepare physically, mentally, and especially spiritually.

    That was a short introduction. Now we need to know HOW to prepare … so please read on.

    “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” ~Winston Churchill

    “…In the last days difficult times will come.” ~ 2 Timothy 3:1

    “When the righteous triumph, there is great glory. But when the wicked rise, men hide themselves.” ~Proverbs 28:12

    In 1974 the Lord told me to prepare His people for a coming crash of our society socially, economically, politically… and spiritually. No one believed that message in 1974 or 84 or 94. But now a remnant does. My whole ministry for all these 41 years has been geared towards giving this warning and showing that remnant how to be prepared for this prophetic era we are now in, and hundreds have responded. The rest are still asleep…

  28. kathymac Jun 4th 2015

    2 Chronicles 7:14 is still the word of the Lord. Yes, the USA is in a mess but I do not believe God is finished with us. There are prophets prophesying on both sides of the aisle, one of the groups is not hearing from God. Bottom line, we need to stay close to God, pray for our leaders, pray for our nation, and trust God. He is ultimately in control and I will keep you eyes on Him!

  29. Brian Bennett Jun 4th 2015

    In 2008 when Obama was elected I wept as I knew that he was a man who represented all that is an abomination. And not once but twice America has allowed it to be so. It is free will at work with lawlessness of the flesh of millions of believers and non believers alike!

    As I was weeping that day in 2008 being form Alaska I new that before our polls even closed it was done.
    The Lord said to me “The people have elected there king; and my children have elected their king an Amalekite”.

    Meaning the unbelievers had elected one of their own as one would expect, but that many of His children elected their king an Amalekite (because they elected a man who supported both gay rights and abortion, which are both scripturally an abomination.

    So here we are and this will bring a true revealing of the true sons of God. And the Just will have to come out of the comfort of their pews and stand for the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Or be counted as one of the ones on the left.

    Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
    Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
    Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
    Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
    Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
    Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
    Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
    Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
    Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
    Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
    Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
    Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
    Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

    The right or the left America or any other nation on earth are in the same earth and we that are Christ’s must stand with him in all thing now.

    Mat_10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

    Does He (Jesus) Know you?

    This isn’t about anything but the Kingdom of Heaven in the earth.

    Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

    So brothers and sisters lets get about telling the truth and with truth destroy the false and expose seeker friendly as the devil loving that it is, with the truth of the Word, With the real Jesus!

    The Lord bless you all richly.

    In His service,

    Brian Bennett

  30. If people like to believe modern, so called prophets, they should first see if their pronouncements have any relation to the real, God given ancient prophets.
    I do see the USA in a few Bible prophesies, but not as a particular concern right now.
    No, God’s eyes are on the Middle East, His Holy Land and what is happening there should be what we are watching. The fact that Obama has virtually given the green light to Iran to produce nukes; weapons that their only purpose is to attack Israel, means that the Psalm 83 scenario is very close. Isaiah 22:6

  31. liz48 Jun 4th 2015

    The biggest stumbling block to those who claim to be christian in the US, is the illegal immigrant issue. The “christians” have not been taught faith to believe that the Lord is The Provider and He will provide for both the illegals and the legal population. Our Wisdom is to honor His Word and treat the stranger well.

    The pride of borders is often idolatry – the American way, the American dream being threatened etc.

    There are “christians” like Anne Coulter who will wear a cross around her neck and yet preach the doctrine of demons. Every human being in made in the Image of the Lord. What we believe will determine our reality and our future – Proverbs 23:7.

    It is the roman catholic organization and the Jewish people who have supported a remedy for the illegal immigrants who often don’t look took clean or nice. How can the “christians” unless they get out there and get their representatives to help the immigrants, expect a Blessing from the Lord.

    The greatest hindrance to the illegals getting fair relief (some of them have lived in the US and worked menial jobs for 20 years), are the representatives in Congress from the “christian” so called conservative states like Kansas and Iowa.

  32. Keith Jun 4th 2015

    Speaking as one situated outside the political arena of north america, the opening half of this reeks of politics. I fear that you, my dear brother and sister of north america, are so deeply immersed in your own culture and political divisions that you cannot call it for what it is. It is a danger every would-be follower of Jesus faces. Right from the start, our Lord made clear that we have become citizens of another kingdom – we remain for the moment ‘in’ this present world, but we are no longer ‘of’ it. Our goal (and our pressing interest) is far higher.

    The strongest part of this ‘word’ was in its closing paragraphs – it speaks equally and powerfully to all of us, whatever our particular nation: “Stop being ‘America’ and start being Christ’s followers”

  33. liz48 Jun 4th 2015

    Brian Bennett, if our hearts turned to loving our neighbor, the greatest commandment of the Lord, the spiritual reality will be that we will have the faith and confidence to reap a leader who will honor the Lord. Our neighbor can be the Hispanic who looks so different from a conservative white “christian” like John Hagee or Anne Coulter.

    KathyMac, Yes the Lord is not done with the US. However there is a cleansing and the flesh will be destroyed, especially those who claim to know the Lord. The book of Revelation tells us that it is better to be cold (not claim to know or know the Lord at all), or hot (fully committed to the Lord) than to be lukewarm – those who honor the Lord with their lips but their hearts are cold and far from Him, which is sadly the reality in many “churches.” See Revelation 3:15.

  34. We are all bound over to disobedience so that God might have mercy on us all. God is our Sovereign Lord. Like the Apostle Paul, we should boast only of the “Cross of our Lord Yeshua Messiah”.
    I am grateful for all the brothers and sisters have said and written. Our God of Truth will sort things out.
    The end of The Book of Revelation chapter 17 sums up the demise of Mystery Babylon (America). Ruined. Left naked. Flesh eaten. And burned with fire.
    The current President has been faithful to carry out these plans as dictated to him by others. The next will speed it to the completion as “God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purposes” concerning this once powerful, world controlling nation.
    What follows will be much worse.
    Israel and Jerusalem are in the final cross hairs.
    In the end, Messiah will walk triumphantly down the Mount of Olives. I, for one, will be standing along the way cheering and worshiping Him as He approaches the newest temple. So will numberless others.

  35. Lynn2 Jun 4th 2015

    Saints I will be 72 years old in two months, and I have been promised in Gods word that the generation that has seen Israel return to her Land – 1948 – is the generation that shall see the return off the Lord. I am that generation a generation scriptually is said to be 70 to 80 years.

    I believe Gods word God can not lie. we need to live as if he were coming today of course a few things need to happen first,
    :
    2 Thessalonians 2:1-5New Living Translation (NLT)

    Events prior to the Lord’s Second Coming

    2 Now, dear brothers and sisters,[a] let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and how we will be gathered to meet him. 2 Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us. 3 Don’t be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness[b] is revealed—the one who brings destruction.[c] 4 He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.

    5 Don’t you remember that I told you about all this when I was with you?

    And we can see this is already in the making.
    The Apostasy is alive and well, and the worlds conditions are ripening for a One World Beat System and the Coming Man of Lawlessness/antichrist. We have but a few years and it is my humble persuation we are on the front door of the birth pains.

    Our Greatest concern should be souls! Time is off the essence. Our greatest concern is our relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

    America the New Babylon will fall at Gods appointed time. Our Prayers should be focused on souls and Christ’s precious followers.

    I believe it is good to warn of the coming destruction to warn for many are not watching their lamps full, we must lay down our all for Christ and his kingdom and keep each other in prayer.

    In His Love, lynn

  36. Ejimanze Jun 4th 2015

    Thanks for sharing the ‘political’ prophecy, Bro Andrew. My take is that in the main it is fairly accurate and in sync with what I received myself.
    $ America is man’s best shot at governing himself. This city/empire building project started with Nimrod, ‘a great hunter b4 the Lord’ Rev. 10. 11.
    $ America is the carnal replica of that wonderful sight b4 the Throne in Rev. 7:9 where John beheld an lo, a great multitude which number of all nations and kindred and people and tongues stood b4 the Lamb, clothed with white robes and palms in their hands.
    America is the only nation/empire in the world that people from every nook and corner of d world can claim as their country.
    I have brother, cousins, friends and classmates from my village here in Nigeria who are bona fide Americans.
    But like with every effort of man, America falls short of d divine standard, for All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

    Cont’d. ..

  37. Let me tell you why this prophecy is FALSE:

    Every leader on this planet answers to someone upstairs or downstairs, whether they realize it or not, and no one’s decisions are entirely on their own. All of us are shaped by our environments, our religious beliefs and spiritual connections, our friends, and our political affiliations and leanings, and Obama is no different than the rest of us!

    I personally believe that, up to a certain point, people have an angelic spirit on one shoulder and a demonic spirit on the other, whispering ideas into the ears of our subconscious, until eventually one spirit wins sway over the other and crowds the other out. It should be obvious to anyone who looks carefully at Obama’s actions and decisions that the evil spirit on Obama’s shoulder won out!

    As an example, one has to look no further than Obama’s twisted moral values. Sadly, he supports unlimited abortion and every sexual perversion, he hates Christians and Christianity even though he masquerades as one (as most Liberals do), and with the help of the Satanically set up Federal Reserve Bank, he has taken every step he could to destroy the value of the American dollar.

    Not only that, but Obama is sympathetic to Radical Muslims and their cause, which is to DESTROY America and Israel, and turn the world into a Muslim Caliphate under the barbarism of Sharia Law. This is why he has made the glaringly bad political and military decisions he has in the Middle East! He supports the Muslim Brotherhood that had controlled Egypt with his blessing for a very short time, and this makes him a TRAITOR to America!

    The fact that Obama is a Traitor with a capital “T” should be obvious to anyone! With people from the Muslim Brotherhood working in his presidential administration, and with his total support of a Muslim Brotherhood party being established in Illinois, Obama supports the radical objectives of the Muslim Brotherhood, and all of the other Terrorist organizations out there, including ISIS and Hezbollah!

    I also resent the fact that this false prophecy states that America got what it deserves, because over 50 percent of Americans do NOT hold the same values as Obama. They are fiscal and moral conservatives. Many of them are also Christians. I can also guarantee you that this conservative majority did NOT vote for Obama, but that he won his two terms in office by buying it! There’s no doubt in my mind that he used the many millions of dollars he raised in campaign funds (much of it from Muslim nations who see him as their Mahdi or Mahdi’s helper!) to flood the voting boxes with fraudulent votes!

    But all of this really doesn’t matter anymore, because it is clear to me and many other believers that we are the final generation that will see the Rapture and the return of Christ to conquer the wicked at the Battle of Armageddon. Israel’s re-birth as a nation in 1948 began the countdown on a one generation long 70 year clock that will end in 2017, although I dare say I think Christ will come again before the seventy years are up!

    As regards the Rapture and Tribulation, I also wanted to share that I believe the Pre-Tribulation Rapture scenario is incorrect, and we are witnessing the first stage of the final Tribulation period before Christ’s return. Let me explain why:

    Christ returns in the Rapture AFTER “the tribulation of those days”, but BEFORE the Great Tribulation, which is 3-1/2 years. There are TWO Tribulation periods being spoken of in Matthew 24, and the tribulation preceding the Great Tribulation is the one we are in right now. The Rapture comes AFTER the Fifth Seal is opened, and likely will occur just before OR as the Sixth Seal is opened in the very near future.

    The Wrath of God begins to be poured out on the whole world when the Sixth Seal is opened in Revelation 6, not before, and believers are NOT subject to God’s Wrath. The beheadings of believers by Muslims that are occurring now are part of the events of the Fifth Seal. The first Five Seal Judgments are caused by man’s inhumanity to man that will call down God’s Wrath, but are not part of the Wrath of God, which will affect the wicked around the world, and will be much worse than the Seal Judgments!

    Read Revelation 13 and 16. There is no way people will be going about their daily business after the entire Earth is subjected to these cataclysmic worldwide plagues. The entire world will be in a state of mass destruction and death, as described in these Chapters. This means that the Great Tribulation will be far worse than any disaster that has ever been seen on this Earth outside of the Great Flood!!!

    However, in Revelation 3, our loving Savior did promise ONE of the seven Churches – His Bride called the Church of Philadelphia that remains faithful until the end – that she would escape all the terrible things that will occur during “the Time of Trial”, which is a reference to the Great Tribulation. For a more detailed explanation of these events, read my article:

    Why the Post-Tribulation View of the Rapture Doesn’t Make Sense
    http://pillarofenoch.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-post-tribulation-view-of-rapture.html

  38. Ejimanze Jun 4th 2015

    $ My revelation of Obama in 2008 was that he was God’s man for peacefully bringing down America, man’s last effort at self government. That’s why he got the Nobel Peace prize in his very first year.
    $Obama is to America what Mikhail Gorbachev was to the Soviet Union, what Paul was to Judaism… and I suspect what Pope Francis ma. be to the Catholic Church (Watch ).
    $ You may have observed God’s strategic masterplan of using the brightest and the best in a system to bring the system down when it has fulfilled is purpose in His plan. I noticed it first with Moses in Egypt.
    $ The speed with which Obama rose to prominence can be compared to Alexander the great. He was noticed at the Democratic Convention in 1994 – a mere state legislator. By 2008, thus 1st generation African American was President of America – the lone and undisputed global superpower on planet earth!
    $ Now if one can’t see a divine here, s/he sure would need some eyesalves.
    $ It was observed that the groaning and travailing for the Manifestation of the Sons of God produced Obama, and my president Jonathan in the flesh. And like all straw man, they have their flaws. But they have been good pointers as to how the war is proceeding in the Spirit.

    Cont’d. …

  39. A PS to my above remarks:

    I do hope the mainstream churches figure out just how far into the tribulation we are soon. Our focus really needs to be on repentance, getting things right with Christ, and winning souls for Him, because the Rapture could be any day now.

    Oh, and the 70-year generation that saw Israel’s re-birth actually ends in 2018, not 2017, which I accidentally typed before.

    God bless you all, and Maranatha!
    Christ is coming very soon! :-)

  40. This article is simply 95% political opinion, Not prophecy. The US electoral season is well under way.

  41. Ejimanze Jun 4th 2015

    (Corrigendum – Obama was noticed in 2004, not 1994.)

    $ Mene, mene, tekel, Upharsin. The handwriting is on the wall for America the great, fallen man’s last ditch effort to rule the earth independent of the Lord God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth.
    $ Those with spiritual insight will rejoice that Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and that the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdom of our God and of His Christ. Amen Hallelujah!
    $ And begin to get ready to reign, folks, for the kingdom, and the greatness of the kingdom shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High. These things were told Daniel way, way back many centuries ago. Aren’t u glad and greatly beloved and favored to be living in the Age and time of the fulfilment of these prophecies!
    $ Fear not, little flock, it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

    Shalom,
    Ejimanze

  42. Ejimanze Jun 4th 2015

    Thumb ‘s up my Scottish brother, Alex Smith. I share ur drift.

    Bro Bob Padgett , I hear you and pray along for God to spare us His people. And cause His face to shine upon us.

    Gary B, you are my brother! U sure would likely see me galloping along with Jesus on a white horse. And hey man, hop on one; let’s escorts our great King triumphantly to town!

    Bless ur hear, Sister Lynn. Keep on expecting Him. All preps are concluded in the spirit. Heaven can’t hold Him any longer. We redeemed earthman stake our claim that we will have this man Christ Jesus rule and reign over us.

  43. Mark Elam Jun 4th 2015

    I agree with the essence of this word. Whether all of the specifics are accurate will be known soon.

    I haven’t read the other comments, but I want to remind us all of something and clarify something that was mentioned in the article. We have the government we deserve. It was given to us by God.

    We the people of the USA, elected Bill Clinton not once, but twice, the second time will full knowledge of the kind of man he was. That told God a lot about our values and priorities.

    Even as God chose Saul, He has now chosen Obama. Yes, God chose Saul, but He did it according to the lusts, desires and longings of the people. Obama is a symbol of what is wrong with America.

    The cause of our present condition, however, is not to be found in the halls of Washington D.C. Rather, it is found both in the godless homes of America and in the compromised Christian homes.

    ‘If MY people will humble themselves…’ You know the rest. We, His people, are to blame. Else why would He say, “For the time has come that judgment must begin at THE HOUSE OF GOD. And if it first begin with us, where shall the sinner and the ungodly appear? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, what shall the end be of those who obey not the gospel of God?”

    I’m not saying that we should lose heart. If we do that, we fail the test! I’m not saying America can’t be saved, but if true revival does not come to the homes of America, everything spoken of in the article and even more will surely happen.

  44. Ejimanze Jun 4th 2015

    God’s people, ask the question, God, what’s the game plan? what are you working at? What’s the big picture? Once we understand God’s perspective fear flysheet out and faith flows in.
    In the final, final analysis God is bringing every man under his own vine and under his own fig tree. Every man returns to his inheritance in God in Christ. This is the real deal, the Jubilee.

    The current carnal world order is utter and total confusion – Babylon. An economic situation where 80% of the world’s resources is gobbled by less than 20% of the world’s population; where man/nation lords over another man/nation, and man makes laws that call good evil and evil good; man still dressed in the fig leaves of religion; an educational system that denies God and has enthroned science as its god…and plain carnal mindedness, God’s public enemy no. 1. Expect the Stone cut without hand to take out completely this Babylonia image and confusion very very shortly. I have seen it in the Spirit.

    Friends, followers and allies of Jesus Christ, the King of the Stone kingdom that replaces Babylon can hardly wait for this final overthrow to take place. But the stalwarts and stakeholders of Babylon will fight to the death defending their crumbling empire and bemoan its fall, for thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. Amen. Rev 18.
    Every man will have to choose ye this day on whose side you and whom you shall serve. As for me and my house we have cast our lot and will serve the victorious, everlasting King, Jesus.

  45. What impresses me is the quantity of excellent comments. This Blog enjoys many readers who are evidently walking closely with the Lord. The comments are in some cases, as valuable as the article. I think of 2 writers in particular, namely Bob Padgett and Kenneth Uptegrove,

    I appreciated Bob’s directive from heaven that we would all do well not fixate on the lacking church or the inevitable/ yea – Biblical demise – predicted for America, as much as in saving what may be still gathered. That is, souls.

    A wonderful evangelist/ writer here in Annandale Virginia, David Henderson (Jesus House Ministries) shared how the Lord showed him that right now it is ‘A Time of Picking up the Pieces’.. That is, the most important work of our day and time is to gather what may be gathered

    I was blessed to click on Bob and Kenneth’s names and discover that they both write Blogs, each having a word to say to our day and time. Praise God.

    Thanks belong to Andrew Strom for drawing us here together, and for the courage and integrity demonstrated by the unpopular posts that need to be read and reckoned with. He reminds me of one David Wilkerson in this respect.

  46. Bruce Jun 5th 2015

    I asked God a few years ago why He put Obama in the presidency. God said, “I have a reason.” That is all he said.

    About 5 years ago, I got a word from the Lord about the rapture. He said one must meet the following requirements to go in the rapture:

    1. Born again
    2. Baptized in the Holy Spirit
    3. Obedient
    4. Have an intimate relation with God
    5. Be holy.

    These are all in the Bible. I believe you must speak in tongues to verify your baptism in the Holy Spirit.

    The Harbinger and the Shemitah give us much information about what is going to happen in the near future. This is a Shemitah year, and I believe by Sept 13 (Elul 29) many judgements will come against America for all of the sins (abortion, homosexuality, trying to get God out of our society by stopping prayer in schools, eliminating the ten commandments, etc.)

    The only safe place is close to God. Psalm 91. Your relationship has to be with God, not with some church. God told me recently that He was going to stir things up, really stir things up!! He was referring to the churches among other things. He told me a few years ago that His sheep were dying.

    I believe America can still be saved, but it will take a great outpouring of God’s Spirit. If it were not possible that America could be saved, there would be no need for all the warnings. However, if America does not heed the warnings, and so far, the warnings have not been heeded, America will be destroyed as ancient Israel was destroyed by the Assyrians..

  47. Mike Gaskin Jun 5th 2015

    As stated int the King James “these things musts be”. We demanded a King, God gave us a “Saul”, his name is Obama.
    For the Anti Christ to be revealed the West must fall. I hope I am dead wrong, but fear I am not. It would appear we are well down the path.

  48. I honestly believe that things are playing out according to God’s plan for the end of time. I would tend to give the Beatles and the hippie generation as much or more blame than the present American administration. Rebellion became an admirable trait in the sixties/seventies and onward. We began to believe that the world had too many people. Along with the pill and abortion and a declining birth rate, we began to take in more and more immigrants (IE Muslims, some of them extremists,) in order to keep our economies moving. Political correctness came into vogue, so critical thought was quenched. Feminism, gay rights, and the “ME” first attitude brought us down even further. People voted Obama into power, because of what they believe to be true and good….and now good has become evil, and evil good. It is happening very quickly now, and gathering speed. I believe that Obama is simply a manifestation of the heart of the American people….we get the government we deserve. When the twin towers were hit in 9/11/01, the first thing I thought at the time was Rev. 18:9,10, and that it was the beginning of the end for the USA….the slide down continues. Countries are turning against Israel, just as the Word says….the timeline continues….God is not mocked.

  49. Luciana-SOCIAL JUSTICE NETWORK Jun 5th 2015

    Dear All People of Good Will!
    Bravo!
    Well done! … writing a summary (however limited) of the present state of affairs….the international affairs orchestrated by the ‘Bully-Boss’ that is one of many on this planet, i.e., the United States of America.
    And the worst is still to come.

    Mark Elam speaks well…..Yes! The cause of the present ills of humanity world wide, is indeed found in the heart of each one of us who do not follow Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the Man who gave Love to the whole world!
    While Moses gave the Ten Commandments to the Jews
    ….Jesus, the Nazarene, sent his followers to:
    “Go and teach all Nations to Love one another!”
    The ‘tough-Love’ which demands ‘obligations’ from those who are the recipients of ‘benefits’…..which includes making reparation for our hurtful deed…our ‘sins’.

    The majority of people, nominal Christians or otherwise,
    have always been and are now a majority of good for nothing good people.

    Re. Electoral Elections in America and Obama or other
    aspiring Presidents of that Global-Police-Empire, please
    consider that Americans are NOT obliged to VOTE!
    Q.Why?
    A .Perhaps it is best answered by saying that it is by design
    of the aspiring powerful….’leading the blind..good for nothing good…. majority.’

    The majority who have the power for good, but do NOT ACT.

  50. DonaldN Jun 5th 2015

    I agree that much is true concerning this message. The one problem I see is that it approaches it all from a political/national point of view. We do not have anti-christian leaders because of the power of evil taking over. God has put the leadership of this country in place for His own purpose. It is because of the corruption of the church that we are facing destruction of this nation. It is not the USA that is being destroyed, but rather the church within the USA going into captivity because of its compromised worship and desire to be like the world. We should not be at all alarmed that the world worships its god. The problem is that the church worships the same false gods. Just as Israel worshiped the gods of the nations around them, the church looks at and desires the things the world is doing around them. God brought the leader of Babylon against Israel, God is now bringing the religion of Babylon to the USA.

    I had this prophecy in Feb 2014

    Wake up people, we are on a sinking ship!!!! Never in history has any nation recovered from a fraction of the corruption that this nation is flooded with. As for the Church….There are still those who are saying “We are God’s people, God’s nation, founded on Christian principles, God will protect us!!!”
    WAKE UP CHURCH!!! Israel said the same things. They had their false prophets saying that they shall not go into captivity.
    Jer 14:15 Therefore thus says the LORD concerning the prophets who prophesy in My name, whom I did not send, and who say, ‘Sword and famine shall not be in this land’–‘By sword and famine those prophets shall be consumed!
    Jer 27:9-10
    9 Therefore do not listen to your prophets, your diviners, your dreamers, your soothsayers, or your sorcerers, who speak to you, saying, “You shall not serve the king of Babylon.”
    10 For they prophesy a lie to you, to remove you far from your land; and I will drive you out, and you will perish.
    Did God save Old Testament Israel from their corruption? NO, In fact God is the one who brought the enemies in and destroyed Israel because of their compromised worship and desire to be like the world. If He did that to Israel, why would you think He will save the USA? Get ready for some hard times CHURCH!!!
    Time to prepare our younger generation for spiritual survival!!!
    Time to prepare ourselves for spiritual survival!!!
    Think this cannot happen here?
    Take a look at Russia. They have great cathedrals and churches from their past, Christianity was obvious and open, until an anti-Christian leader took over and crushed Christianity and made it illegal for nearly a century.
    Look at China. Watchman Nee was a notable preacher throughout China. Then an anti-Christian leader took over and outlawed Christianity there also and Watchman Nee found himself in prison for his faith.
    Now look at the USA. We have anti-Christian leadership in this nation. It is not just one man as president, but a whole regime that wants to do away with Christianity in this nation.
    Are you prepared to go into captivity? Are you ready to hold fast to your faith through persecutions and tribulations?
    The remnant of Israel also went into captivity with the rest. They held on to their faith and God prospered them in the land of their captivity, but not without persecution and very hard times.
    What will you do?

  51. Readers should not be confused with the Biblical account of the conquering of Babylon by Medo Persians which was more significant than Alexander’s conquering the city – after its would be defenders lost in other battles with Alexander. The fact that the Babylonians welcomed him and he died there, seems to be the most significant historical elements related to in this prophecy. Truly America is already in the throws of its downfall and anyone who can not see it is NO LONGER the LEADER of the FREE WORLD is blind. America is NO LONGER America. God is boiling it down to REVIVAL or BUST! YES, God sent Obama as He has sent all kings and emperors in the past. I’m curious if anyone has record of the prophecy that Obama will be removed from office for treason.

  52. Arnie Jun 5th 2015

    this author spends way too much time in the article describing his belief that Obama and Clinton regimes are simply ignorantly stumbling to support the wrong side history and accidentally supporting the enemies of the USA in the long cause of freedom. I am sure glad to see by the end of the article he has come full circle understanding the depth of evil that has come to the USA as a trojan horse. they are seeking to destroy everything Godly and good in this nation. it will be sad and difficult to share and live thru the oppression and persecution coming, but we will be able to eventually be able to proclaim to the entire country “we told you so…but you would not believe the Word of God or us.” There were plenty of witnesses proclaiming to the churhc and the nation of its downfall into sin and judgment. it is a frightful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God!

  53. Marie Jun 5th 2015

    I wonder if we really need to know details of our national foreign policies. Will it benefit the Body of Christ and the Great Commission? It’s likely that the Lord does give a Word to his prophets, which I still believe exist in this dispensation.

    However, does it edify us? It may prepare our hearts and push us harder to bring people to Christ, but, we can’t forget that we ALL live in these nations; for Americans, they live in, participate in, pay taxes to their Ceasar, live by the laws of the land, and if laws are anti-biblical, they, by enjoying U.S. citizenry and all it’s perks, wealth, opportunities, possibilities, dreams achieved, are partakers of Babylon and play in that playground. We know that politics is dirty, governments and principalities are wicked, corrupt. Why do we panic or complain when the world’s politicians do their puppet’s bidding? Are we not partakers of the spoils of war? Yes, we love our war heroes and fight, we love companies like Halliburton who invest in war and we love our billionnaires who bring their wealth back to our shores. Wars that started with so many previous administrations before the Obama Administration. Spending too much time focusing on the character of one leader, or several leaders, puts undeserved focus on pride, patriotism and vanity and it all turns into idolatry. Focusing on dictators methods of madness and blaming or approving our leaders isn’t what we will be asked about when we have to stand at the Judgment Seat.

    I wonder if the Lord is so concerned about Bush or Obama or Clinton as much as He is concerned about His bride being ready. What use is there in wringing our hands because our governments send billions of dollars into the wrong hands? There will never be a righteous war. Why do we wring our hands about who we send weapons and armaments to? We should be ashamed, and weeping that other blood-bought individuals will die by these weapons; shouldn’t we beg God’s forgiveness that WE sent them, and we, as christians, contribute to this through our taxes. We are all guilty, we all have blood on our hands, because we live in this world. Before we condemn unbelievers, or socialists, or secular humanists of sabotage, we need to look no further than ourselves, as we participate in the electoral process, and contribute to wicked nations. No nations are exempt from God’s judgment. No nation will be able to stand in front of God’s throne and feel entitled or special, or priviledged in this dispensation. We are under grace, individually. We should just pray for President Obama, pray for Egypt’s leader, pray for the Saudis, all those who are in charge in the Middle East, that they find Christ. That is all we can do. The last words of Jesus to his disciples, and His command to us was:

    And he said unto them: Go ye into al the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; in my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Mark 16: 15-18

  54. beehappier Jun 5th 2015

    I still think that God’s judgement in America would begin with the false church, not the economy.

  55. DonaldN Jun 5th 2015

    Mark 16: 15-18
    And these signs shall follow them that believe; in my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

    This is one key to the new reformation in the 21st century. When we begin to believe (same word as faith) that these things will actually happen when we minister to someone then the world will take notice. As it is now, the world don’t care to listen to a dead, lifeless religious bunch of hypocrites.

    2 Chron 7:14
    if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

    This is the second key to the new reformation of the 21st century. There are 3 parts to this. Only the first 2 parts have been practiced in the past. The Church must turn from her wicked ways before the prayer does any good.

    2Cor 6:17
    Therefore ” Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.”

    This is the 3rd key to the new reformation of the 21st century. The church must reject all connection with the world. We must separate ourselves from them and live our lives in holiness and following the Spirit of God. We are a peculiar people, a holy nation. We should walk just as he walked.

  56. Well FWIW a pleea fof sanity and Godly
    1 The world is not free, it is in bondage to sin and has been since the Adam and Eve rebellion
    2 The man of sin is not some future demonic despot! Rather he lives between the ears of every individual of the Adamic race which is “of the earth” this race of the flesh must die legally and justly

    3 There is another race on earth since Pentecost, these are an Anointed race, not of this, world but of a new yet to be revealed one This race is of the Heavens Spiritual they are resurected and fashioned according to the very nature of Great Redeemer Himself.
    These were once Adamic in nature and sin, but have literally, legally, justly, died to sin and been buried with Jesus in waters of baptism. Having thus died with Him they then MUST have the Pentecost of of the early church be resurrected with them into the power and life of a resurrected Jesus – ie they MUST be “Christos-ed” in the Holy Ghost and Power.
    The early Church recognized this “Christos – Anointing” on new believers as as the self same experience that inspired Peter to pour forth an unprepared un-notated “Talk, Sermon, Word,” explaining the Pentecostal experience which he finished off by by prophesying that ALL EVERYWHERE Even those a lLONG WAY OFF (today) who God called shall, (and make no mistake that shall is imperative) receive that selfsame Anointing of the Spirit. These alone are the new Heavenly race whom disputers, and detractors, mockers of Peters day, nicknamed “Christians – Anointed”
    “Have you received the Holy Spirit since you believed? How do you know? If not Why not?”
    This wonderful, blessed, Divine, supernatural event was both visible and audible! It still is today or God lied to us!- Jesus the same yesterday today and forever! There is no new thing under the sun only a further revelation unfolding of Truth!
    When Simon the sorcerer saw it occur, (remember at that stage was only baptized in water he was not resurrected – baptized in the Spirit) offered money to receive the same power!

    Well we (my Lord and I) have had our say.
    Thanks Andrew for the privilege of posting here. No doubt many will bag me over it, maybe someone is listening. Jesus prayed for you in John 17.
    Ps re the Obama issue ad all other rulers for that matter, no arguments because, “Know that The Most High God rules in the kingdom of men and gives it to whoever He wills” i am not the least bit concerned about the future of His people except for those as yet unsaved. That is where our priority, nay our very duty lies.
    Ps Michael

  57. grant Jun 5th 2015

    Hi, As I’m thinking of the fall of the USA and Hillary Clinton in power.I also pondered on William Brahnams last two visions….very interesting.

  58. Hello Andrew,

    I agree with the prophecy. After Obama was elected, I had been praying, asking God why didn’t they see who he really was? The Lord showed me Saul and the people crying out for a king. He reminded me of their rejection of the One True God and then I heard Him say, “I gave them what they wanted.”

    Next prayer time I saw Obama, in secret, shaking hands In agreement with people, they seemed evil and I asked the Lord, what was he doing? The Lord showed me that his agreements were against America to destroy and betray her. He was selling her out.

    After this, every time I really prayed for America’s repentance, I was grieved because I kept hearing America is now a byword. Many shall pass by and say, what happened she used to he great and now America is nothing. It broke me heart, but it’s not about America anymore, it’s about shortness of time and lost souls and keeping our eyes “fixed in Jesus.”

    God bless and keep you!
    Linda

  59. Grant Jun 5th 2015

    With reference to “mercurial” being used re Hillary Clinton.
    In a spiritual context that word has quite serious links……Mercurial derives from the word Mercury ( Latin: Mercurius ) who is a major Roman god.
    He is the patron god of financial gain, commerce, eloquence (and poetry), messages/communication (including divination), travelers, boundaries, luck, trickery and thieves; he is also the guide of souls to the underworld.
    Greek οὖρος (by analogy of Arctūrus/Ἀρκτοῦρος), as the “keeper of boundaries,” referring to his role as bridge between the upper and lower worlds.
    In Virgil’s Aeneid, Mercury reminds Aeneas of his mission to found the city of Rome. In Ovid’s Fasti, Mercury is assigned to escort the nymph Larunda to the underworld. Mercury, however, fell in love with Larunda and made love to her on the way. Larunda thereby became mother to two children, referred to as theLares, invisible household gods.

  60. DonaldN Jun 5th 2015

    Hear the Word which Jehovah speaks to you, O house of Israel.Thus says Jehovah, Do not learn the way of the nations, and do not be dismayed at the signs of the heavens; for the nations are dismayed at them.For the customs of the people are vain; for one cuts a tree out of the forest with the ax, the work of the hands of the craftsman.They make it beautiful with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and hammers, so that it will not totter.They are crafted into hammered work like a palm tree, and they cannot speak. They must be lifted up and carried, because they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them; for they are not able to do evil, neither is it in them to do good. (Jer 10:1-5)

  61. Marilyn C Jun 5th 2015

    I appreciated L. Alex Smith`s comments from his `wee country village in Scotland.` As my mother was Scottish I did appreciate that phrase. Also `fret not,` & `God`s plan will go forth on schedule.` Amen bro.

    My thoughts are – ~Why are we concerned with what the nations are doing….Ps 2 ~Why do the nations rage, & the people plot a vain thing etc…` We are a `chosen generation, a royal priesthood, His own special people,….` (1 Peter 2: 9)

    People need to think `Body of Christ` not nationalism.

    Marilyn.

  62. GrantS Jun 5th 2015

    Hi All,
    I find it interesting that there doesnt seem to be any obvious direct biblical references to America in endtime prophecy unlike Russia, China, Isreal etc.
    Is this because America is not involved, out of the world stage or is it just not obvious.
    For a great many years America stood for biblical freedom and justice in many ways and was less liberal than is now being displayed (but that possibly could be said of many western countries now).
    All I know is that there seems to be in these latter times an uneasy almost undefinable concern amongst many Americans over their future … the opposite to the last 50 odd years.

    God bless,
    Grant

  63. Marilyn C Jun 5th 2015

    Hi GrantS,

    I actually was taught that America is in the Bible. This is not the place to discuss it, but if you are interested you will find me on Worthy Christian Forums – under Marilyn C.

    PM (private message me there, or check out the past Eschatology notes.

    Blessings, Marilyn.

  64. GrantS Jun 5th 2015

    Hi,

    Its amazeing that this topic has had more comments in the same time frame than the one on Bethel Redding promoteing new age and occultic practises and beliefs.
    Is this a sign of the true spiritual condition of the church that politics has more interest than the invasion of the church by false teachers and teaching in the last days to lead people astray.

    God bless,
    Grant

  65. Ken Arrand Jun 5th 2015

    I basically accept the word as true but time will tell on the “Hilliary Clinton” aspect.
    We must keep our eyes on Jesus and know HIm as our provider in all circumstances as we seek to lead a life of obedience and holiness.
    The prophecy has caused me think about a few other things.
    I always wondered about the “ten” toes of the vision in Daniel for the last days. There is a world religion, world dictator etc so the “ten” toes must be the world divided into “ten” regions or zones. How would this come about?
    The prophecy shows the downgrade of USA. I can see (this is me and not prophecy) that with the the USA and Britain etc in downgrade mode that other nations will clamour to be heard at world level. The UN Security Council of 6 members will increase to 10 members elected from the world being divided up into 10 regions? The UN seems to me to be satan’s method of bringing in a one world government.
    Shalom (from Zimbabwe, Africa)

  66. ValleyAnt Jun 5th 2015

    Helena Lehman wrote: “I personally believe that, up to a certain point, people have an angelic spirit on one shoulder and a demonic spirit on the other, whispering ideas into the ears of our subconscious, until eventually one spirit wins sway over the other and crowds the other out.” I fully agree. Many times, I’ve stood in front of Christians and especially ministers and have watched them as the Holy Spirit convicted them from above/behind them (“Your ears will hear a word behind you saying, ‘This is the way, walk in it'”– Isa. 30:21) to follow Him in a decision while satan whispered in their left ear, “Remember that you and I have a covenant through your flesh. You live for your flesh, therefore, you owe me your allegiance” in so many words. Every single time to the present, the minister has listened to satan and has chosen the easy route of the flesh and has rejected the Spirit’s counsel. I find it interesting that those cartoons depict the angel on the right shoulder and satan on the left; when the enemy has spoken to me, it has always been in my left ear.

    As for the prophecy above, before Obama took office the first time, I warned some people that he was a Trojan Horse and that the anti-Christ system would work through him to further satan’s plans in America and on earth. I guess we will have to wait to see how this plays out.

  67. His Truth is marching on Jun 5th 2015

    There are many good and sound comments that I agree with here and praise God He is speaking to and leading HIS people all in the same direction.

    Two or three scriptures come to mind with this….Friendship with the world is enmity with God…..and that we wrestle not with flesh and blood but with powers and principalities. For the follower of Christ I agree with those who are saying we should not concern ourselves with politics but with the kingdom that is not of this world where our citizenship now is. And Jesus said that when we see these things happening to look UP for our redemption draws nigh, ie, be looking for HIS kingdom that is not of this world.

    Imagine a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ having to decide between friendship and throwing our lot in with one murderer and thief or another! God forbid! We like the angel should come not in any earthly name or alliance but only in the name of the Lord our God do we come. We are to be friends of God alone, yet to love all with the same love He loves us with, without partiality, for there is none righteous no not one. I say that in all humility for these are hard lessons I am learning the hard way.

    All the western formerly Christian nations are under the exact same judgments and curses as ancient Israel (our ensample) when she departed from the living God………a spirit of stupor and drunkenness (humanism/political correctness/new age IS that spirit of stupor, causing our people to make extremely foolish and unbiblical decisions and policies and shooting our own selves in the foot), as well as diminishment of our nation and being overtaken by the strangers in our midst. And ultimately being attacked and threatened with captivity and expulsion from the lands we once knew as home. But we can’t blame our earthly governments and politicians, because earthly authorities are put there by God, as many are saying, and He it is who raises and lowers the kingdoms of this world.

    So we encourage each other to keep our eyes on what the Father is doing, that our faith will not fail….and what I believe HE is about to do is to refine and purify His children, make us holy in the fire. Eyes looking UP brothers and sisters! The less we have our hopes, affections and thoughts on things of this world, and the more our hopes and affections are on the kingdom of our Lord which comes not with our careful observation, but comes within us, the better it will be. And fear not for Jesus will be with us in the furnace of affliction, just as He was with the three Hebrews who would not bow down to Nebbuchadnezzar’s image of a man. For we are not of those who worship man as god, but we worship God who created man in His image.

  68. ValleyAnt Jun 5th 2015

    Arnie said, “I am sure glad to see by the end of the article he has come full circle understanding the depth of evil that has come to the USA as a trojan horse. they are seeking to destroy everything Godly and good in this nation. it will be sad and difficult to share and live thru the oppression and persecution coming, but we will be able to eventually be able to proclaim to the entire country ‘we told you so…but you would not believe the Word of God or us.’” I agree as I mentioned the same thing to several people well before Obama’s first election. My aunt, a catholic, hated me for what I said, but before she passed last year, she was probably lucid enough to realize that there was more truth to what I’d said to all her hopes that Obama would be a great president.

    As for the state of the American churches, I’ve probably been to more churches than most people visit in their lifetimes and can say that the churches, for the most part, area completely dead and that judgment is inevitable. Christians actually sincerely hate each other and their neighbors but believe they are good and godly and loving people. This is the height of spiritual blindness as John tells us in 1Jn. that no one should be deceived regarding the fact that those who practice righteousness are righteous like Jesus is righteous (and those who instead practice evil or hatred or neglect to love their brethren are evil and not saved). Someone mentioned the priests who minister to the Lord weeping between the porch and altar. Sometimes, that’s all that we can do in the moment.

  69. ValleyAnt Jun 5th 2015

    By the way, when I say “judgment” is inevitable for the compromised and apostate churches, I don’t mean ‘destruction’ or ‘condemnation’ necessarily. Jesus’ words and attitude to the churches in Revelation is a perfect example of what I mean: He said to the ones in compromise and error that if they didn’t repent, He would definitely act. In the movie ‘Valkyrie’, about the last assassination attempt on Hitler, the main character, who headed the Valkyrie mission to overthrow Hitler’s government and set up a new government, stated to a waffling potential fellow dissenter who warned him about the danger of his traitorous actions, “Action is inevitable.” This is what I mean when I say of the dead churches, “judgment is inevitable.” Ie. Jesus must act and respond to the compromise and waywardness of these churches. So, ‘judgment’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘destruction’ but action after a period of silence.

  70. marty Jun 5th 2015

    OK Andrew so what are your thoughts on this prophecy?

    Also do you know of any true apostolic prophets like Katz, Ravenhill, Wilkerson or Basilea Schlink left? I don’t see any such prophets in the church today or even on the horizon. Could it be that since America and the world is about to be judged there will be no more warnings?

    So do you believe the Lord has shown you anything Andrew?

  71. Lori Powers Jun 5th 2015

    When President Obama first ran for office I knew in my spirit he would get in but I didn’t want to believe it. I prayed and voted different. Years before that 1999 on for years I had dreams of many things concerning judgment in America and at time in the dreams I was telling people we must repent judgment is coming.
    In one dream it was angels sent and those who knew to repent but would not it was too late for when the angels came. After these dreams I stood in the gap for the church and the nation in repentance and prayer. And God has been merciful.
    But what I heard the Lord say about judgment. It’s not so much that He is doing it, but that the sins in this nation are reaping a harvest. I believe that God has let us have what we as a nation have wanted or have allowed. We as His people need to keep our hearts right and seek out First Love who cares about saving the lost. We need to pray for our nation, but we also need to pray for the souls who Jezus died for, that their hearts would be soften and filled with a hunger and thirst for His righteousness and Truth. Pray for revival to come to this nation and those around the world. God is merciful and He is waiting on us to get our hearts right and alinged with what He is doing and wants to do, and leave the rest at the alter. The finished work on the cross is powerful and has not died, let that power resurrect the church to be about the Fathers business for us in the earth. Shalom to you all! Nothing missing, nothing broken, all the fullness of the finished work Jesus did be upon us on earth as it is in heaven!

  72. Lori Powers Jun 5th 2015

    Sorry for type os was on my phone

  73. Marie Jun 5th 2015

    I hear people say that America stands for biblical freedom, and things like, she is the light of the world, or she is a light on a shining hill, she is exceptional, she is the only nation that stands up for freedom of religion, all freedoms, etc.

    Christians say this too. Would it grieve the Holy Spirit that a group of Christians lift themselves up by virtue of being in a ‘righteous’ country? By whose standard do they call themselves righteous? Do they feel unique and remarkable because they are the richest, most prosperous? If the Lord blessed America so much, is it because they believe they are super-special? Maybe they are. But should they keep boasting about it in front of other Christians who live with less freedoms and less money and work in poor conditions and humble abodes and can be sent to jail for their beliefs?

    We are the Body of Christ. How can the leg keep bragging about itself, in front of the more uncomely parts? The uncomely parts can’t boast, can’t demand their rights, freedoms, except to depend on Jesus Christ to provide all their needs. Every part of the Body of Christ should never boast, except be thankful that their names are written in the Book of Life.

    THere’s a thing that I can’t put my finger on, but there is a pre-occupation with the Church in the U.S., as though she is part of the final glorious countdown to the Lord’s coming. Some U.S. prophets have even said the Lord would return in Alaska, at the northern star. This is ridiculous.

    What is happening in the churches in the Phillipines? Kenya? Cambodia? China? Northwest Territories? Iraq? We don’t hear a word from the Lord about these, our brethren?

  74. All can say is that I do not think it wise to say “God told me” or “God said” etc. If that is TRUE then all shall have to come to pass exactly!! (according to scripture). I think it would be better to say, “I feel the Lord impressed us with…” or “We felt impressed”, etc. If this is stated as a prophecy and doesn’t come to pass, both they and you loose credibility with the Body of Christ! Paul said, let one prophecy and the others judge… If it is an absolute “thus says the Lord, How is anyone supposed to judge the prophecy until it either does or does not come to pass.

    Sincerely, Pastor DB

  75. Marie Jun 5th 2015

    I am nothing on the scale of a Christian. I struggle and yesterday made a stupid joke and now I look back and can’t believe I would have said that. It isn’t a good witness, and I repent. Having said that, I need the Lord every day and need his forgiveness, so I am not preaching here, I am the least of you.

    Just want to unload what I have felt about these strange days. There’s been an increase in hateful rhetoric by Christians on blogs and sites and internet. It is creepy. There is a demonic spirit, imo, that has veiled the eyes of some Christians in the U.S. in regards to it’s President Obama. He has been scapegoated, blamed, mocked, slandered not just by political conservatives, but Christians. They unwisely call him anti-Christ, a deceiver, liar, and they can’t prove these accusations, but naively believe everything they hear. They put stock in his every move, speculating that he wants to ruin America. They sit, like predators, waiting to see if he’ll fail, or say something untoward, or see if he tries to quote scripture in a prayer breakfast, and they loathe him with such repulsion. Why are they so panicked about a political leader who has the same agenda as every other democrat in the U.S.? Why suddenly in 2008, were Christians adamant that God’s wrath would be poured on the U.S. just because Obama came into power? The democrats demanded equality for lesbian/gays, abortion rights; the President was not the only Democratic candidate to make those promises. Abortion was alive and well before he came into power. Every other Democrat in Congress, or presidential candidate, would have offered the same deal, been elected, and lobbied for these rights. What IS IT ABOUT this President that twists the insides of so many Christians?

    I felt many times in prayer that the Lord is grieved over the spirit of racism that still pervades many in the Church. It’s so satanic that it justifies itself by pretending it is all about a sinful administration. It is not, imo; there is a pattern in the way that these commenters try every which way to blame blame blame one man for the sins of America. They don’t want to admit that they live free in the middle of the tares and want what the tares have. It is so easy to look at the photo of the black man and his wife and children, and see the faces of a race that their traditions are not comfortable with.

    Why would our Lord be so pre-occupied with this present leader in the White House. Were there words of warning for Bush? Were there words from the Lord regarding going into Iraq and toppling their government? Was the Lord concerned about Iraquis lives? How come the Lord didn’t ask the U.S. to topple other dictator governments? Was it because of the oil?

    Every leader in every nation has an agenda. There is none righteous, no man is justified, unless he repent and turn to the Saviour. President Obama and his family are just like us, they need a saviour and I cannot believe that the Lord would whisper in our ear and gossip to us about the character and nature of our leaders. I think some Christians with the spirit of hate for color relish hearing bad things and projecting onto this man. Please love him and pray for him and his family.

  76. Andrew Jun 5th 2015

    You are right, Marie. A lot of Christians have been extremely ungodly and un-Christlike in the way they have bad-mouthed Obama.

    It is a disgrace to the church that these people have been so hateful and spiteful.

    Sad.

    Andrew Strom

  77. I agree with Marie’s observations. I came to the States in 1990 and remember well the venom poured out on President Clinton. Then total silence on President Bush as he dragged the country into needless horrific war. My conclusions after a quarter of a century? Politics wrapped us as a virtue. There is the added element of bigotry with President Obama. He is a secular leader of a secular country. The whole world is falling away right now as the darkness descends around the world. Wrong has become right and the foundations are being destroyed. Christ is at the door and the enemy of our souls knows it well. The hour of tribulation is at hand and if we, the Body of Christ shall stand in that evil day ( and by stand I mean not falling away) we must be about the true warfare. To be involved with politics is to be entangled with the things of the world and to have a vision that does not extend beyond this mortal world. Saints need to be readying themselves for what is to come, and what I mean by that is to press in closer to our Father, to the secret pavillion of His refuge. We need to hold all things of this world very loosely for very soon we shall face the reality of losing everything for His name sake……bro Frank

  78. kolin Jun 6th 2015

    This is a most interesting topic and i have only read half the comments. I am South African, white, born in another country in africa.And America and south africa have parallels. At the battle of blood river, the afrikaner who number in hundreds, prayed to the Living God to save them from the zulus who number ten thousand. A prayer was given up, that if they won against the zulus they would commemorate they day every year and not forget God. A battle ensued and all the zulus were killed and no afrikaners. The river and ground was running with blood. Hence the name blood river. The afrikaner built a huge monument as a reminder to God as promised. Every 16th dec, the sun shines through a small hole in the dome onto His word on the ground floor.
    Now when mandela came to power , he kept this day a public holiday, Day of the Vow. Now even in our country we have a thief and liar and rapist and evil man ruling our country. And if that holiday or monument is removed, then we will have removed our promise to God. I believe He will desert us.
    Now America has removed God from schools, , the judiciary and govt and replaced with evil people who behind the scenes have their own agenda. Not Gods agenda.
    Time to start praying for our Govts in earnest.
    Obama, he is just part of the plan. As for martial law to stay in power, i dont see it happening, but it might. The Bush’s were the most evil presidents self serving for their own greater good.
    Clinton, because he was doing for america financially, there was a war against him to stop him doing good.
    We live in the most awesome interesting times. We may even have a chance to see Jesus return.

  79. Ejimanze Jun 6th 2015

    Marie, God bless your heart. U speak my heart so graciously and eloquently.

    Most Americans know not how much the anger of the world was stoked against America by the end of Pres. Bush’s term. When Pres. Obama went about placating the world they derisively called him ‘Conciliator in Chief’. I was surprisingly shocked; do Americans subconsciously suspect he is the ‘Christ’, just like the Jewish leadership suspected Jesus could be d Christ, and therefore they hated Him without cause. For you see, Conciliator in Chief is a title that rightly belongs to our gracious Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, who has outsourced to us the ministry of reconciliation.
    I sympathised with American Christians when Obama got reelected. I guess the faith of many must have taken a hit: the fasting and praying and zeal to stop Obama came to nought – the man won a 2nd term comfortably. But all God’s people needed to do to avoid such a faith – wrenching disappointment was simply to to ask God who’s His choice and not to impose their choice on Him. (Easier said than done, though. When I was clearly told that Nigeria’s Pres. Jonathan’s agenda was over, I still rooted and voted for him).
    I pray as a son to be always led by the Spirit, for as many as are led by the Spirit they are the Sons of God. America of all the western countries survived and came out of the Great Recession of 2008 strong. The global high tension that was stoked up in the Bush-Blair-Obasanjo years has appreciably ebbed. Somebody, Obama, made this things happen.

    Meanwhile while the politicians were doing their thing, the Most High was busy readying His sons. And when the Sons were about ready in 2010, the Daughters of Zion showed up in 2011 and said, ‘Hold it, not so fast. U ain’t going no where without us!’ They reminded that the Shulamite was as it were a double camp of sons and daughters of the Most High.

    My drift is that if we are not careful and prayerful the Messiah we have waited for the past 2000 years could rise in our midst and we will send him to Pilate to crucify him, crucify him! That all the learned rabbis and Scribes missed Him the first time makes me shudder. If as a zealot I was reading and believe their blogs and tweets about Jesus of Nazareth….

    God’s people and apple of His eye, the night is far spent; the Day is at hand. I strive not to be consumed by the politics and financials that press in on every side daily. I have been shown my white horse: I’m called to be one of them 144,000 on Mt. Zion who follow the Lamb withersoever He goeth. Pray, men and brethren that I will make my calling and election sure. Amen. Maranatha.

    Shalom

    Ejimanze

  80. Ejimanze Jun 6th 2015

    Man of God, Kolin,
    I used to have ‘issues’ with God over Ur 16 Dec. Africaneer day and like celebrations. Why would the Righteous One, the Judge of the whole earth, bless the blunderbuss of the 100+ marauding Africaneer who left their own land to come and blow away and take the land of 10,000 + zulus?

    And like u rightly said, America has a similar history – kill as many native Indians that stand in the way of ‘our founding fathers’ and break every treaty that stands in the way of more land grab.
    I used to ask God, ‘I know U authorised such genocide of old (though I don’t know why U would order King Saul to liquidate the Amalekites, for e.g.). And Man does as his God does. Even so today the Africaneers kill off the zulus and bring a thanksgiving offering to you, the Israelis destroy the Palestians and ww Ur people clap and shout aloud for joy… What Covenant are U operating and how do we factor Jesus teachings? Something don’t add up here, God.’

    This and many more ‘tough’ questions I used to ask God.

    He gave me the answers, and much more in two wonderful treatises – Secrets of Time, and, Creations Jubilee, by Dr. Stephen Jones. http://Www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net.
    U can download the books for free, or better order for copies. U’d be doing urself the finest favor.

    Shalom,

    Ejimanze

  81. Randy Jun 6th 2015

    One problem with this is that Babylon was conquered by the Medes and Persians. Alexander conquered the Medes and Persians, not Babylon.

    Not to say that Obama wasn’t placed here to destroy America so that we will come to repentance.

  82. Andrew Jun 6th 2015

    Yes – Alexander conquered the Medes and Persians – who had largely taken over the Babylonian empire. Alexander then based himself in the city of Babylon – wanting to return it to it’s full glory and make it his capital.

    Does this negate the prophecy? I don’t know. You decide.

    Bless you!

    Andrew Strom